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HighDragLowSpeed 16 April 2019 13:24

To be clear, I dont think that HRC is going to run. Sorry if it came across that way. My point is that MO could swear she wasn't running and then suddenly run...much like HRC did.

SN 16 April 2019 13:40

The Dems are in trouble, hell BHO has called them out for being out of touch and he is as socialist as any of them.
Bernie's wife still has multiple open investigations, and all the dems (or DOJ) have to do is indict halfway through the primary season.
Biden, LOL, anyone remember his VP debate with Ryan (?) other than roll his eyes what did he do? The media let him get away with it, Trump won't.
Michelle Obama, please do it. Her "When BaROCK is President" speech got her kicked off the campaign trail during his 1st run, and I can't see him walking in her shadow.
The others are all bit players, and the guy from Indiana would be forced to admit Trump's policies helped his city.

Trump's mouth and the Republican Party are his two biggest weaknesses.

Box 16 April 2019 13:52

I have heard a lot of landslide talk - but I'm not holding my breath. The democrats could announce today that the ticket is going to be Michael Dukakis and Walter Mondale and they will still be putting a check for 195 electoral votes into their account before the banks close.

President Trump has upset the apple cart and establishment republicans are STILL furious about it and are not going to do a single thing to help. California, Connecticut, Delaware, DC, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Wisconsin, and Washington have all voted blue since 1992. Bush, Romney, Flake, Kasich, Weld, et al would all rather vote for a democrat that publicly support the current POTUS. Because they got their feeling hurt. Not because they are so much more "righteous" the never Trumpers are overrun by drug users philanderers and tax cheats but they prefer "deflection" over honest discussion about the future of America.

Bush couldn't break the blue wall and those bastions of right wing conservatism and public-before-party republicans McCain and Romney never had a chance at painting it red...
...Trump didn't turn them red the first time and the left hates him now more than ever before.

Trump can only lose two good states and his 2020 bid is sunk. The left knows it - and the left doesn't give a fuck who they run because they are already in the lead. They dont need a good candidate - they only need to win a couple of states to continue their bullshit grip on this nations individual and economic freedoms.


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Fubar 16 April 2019 14:05

Gee Box.... now I'm depressed.

grog18b 16 April 2019 14:11

All those politicians to choose from, and I still dislike all of them... from both sides... greatly.

But... at least POTUS is getting shit done. Finally, a POTUS with a sack.

billdawg 16 April 2019 14:49

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Originally Posted by Box (Post 1058790731)
I have heard a lot of landslide talk - but I'm not holding my breath. The democrats could announce today that the ticket is going to be Michael Dukakis and Walter Mondale and they will still be putting a check for 195 electoral votes into their account before the banks close.

President Trump has upset the apple cart and establishment republicans are STILL furious about it and are not going to do a single thing to help. California, Connecticut, Delaware, DC, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Wisconsin, and Washington have all voted blue since 1992. Bush, Romney, Flake, Kasich, Weld, et al would all rather vote for a democrat that publicly support the current POTUS. Because they got their feeling hurt. Not because they are so much more "righteous" the never Trumpers are overrun by drug users philanderers and tax cheats but they prefer "deflection" over honest discussion about the future of America.

Bush couldn't break the blue wall and those bastions of right wing conservatism and public-before-party republicans McCain and Romney never had a chance at painting it red...
...Trump didn't turn them red the first time and the left hates him now more than ever before.

Trump can only lose two good states and his 2020 bid is sunk. The left knows it - and the left doesn't give a fuck who they run because they are already in the lead. They dont need a good candidate - they only need to win a couple of states to continue their bullshit grip on this nations individual and economic freedoms.


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Damn, excuse me while I go slit my wrists, :biggrin:. I do agree though that people who are wishful of Pres. Trump keeping the White House, we should temper our excitement. The left is just getting started and they will have 2 things that will help them immensely.
1-A complicit MSM that will sugar coat their shortcomings, while lambasting POTUS at every turn, and
2-A stupid public that will eat that shit up.

Mingo Kane 16 April 2019 14:59

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Originally Posted by billdawg (Post 1058790742)
Damn, excuse me while I go slit my wrists, :biggrin:. I do agree though that people who are wishful of Pres. Trump keeping the White House, we should temper our excitement. The left is just getting started and they will have 2 things that will help them immensely.
1-A complicit MSM that will sugar coat their shortcomings, while lambasting POTUS at every turn, and
2-A stupid public that will eat that shit up.

OR.....or....the stupid public will see the POTUS lambasting the MSM for their shortcomings, and the stupid voters eat it up...again. :tongue:

btq96r 16 April 2019 15:05

If you're focusing on Mayor Pete being gay, you're going to miss the boat. I have a hard time believing anyone who is disinclined to vote for him because he's homosexual had that as the deciding point. On a national level, while the country may still not want a gay President, I don't think it's to the point where that will decide the issue...we're just far enough beyond it mattering much.

What's making this guy the latest buzz (who may or may not last) is he comes across as a refreshing breath of fresh air compared to the rest of the stale pack. Being a mayor, some form of results need to develop sooner rather than later, which looks a lot more impressive than sitting in committee hearings where all you do is talk and stall the opposition party. Pete's also helped by not being from the coastal areas, and Democrats not in a state bordering an ocean (some of whom voted for Trump in 2016) have been waiting for someone from the party to speak in something that resembles their language for a minute now. Being young and having optimism helps a lot too for Democrats

I have no idea if we're still talking about this guy past Labor Day, but he's a nice change of pace from the norm in my mind. At the latest, I'm glad to see someone who served stepping up. For me, that's something I want more of, regardless of what side of the isle they're on.

1RiserSlip 16 April 2019 15:10

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Originally Posted by btq96r (Post 1058790746)
If you're focusing on Mayor Pete being gay, you're going to miss the boat. I have a hard time believing anyone who is disinclined to vote for him because he's homosexual had that as the deciding point. On a national level, while the country may still not want a gay President, I don't think it's to the point where that will decide the issue...we're just far enough beyond it mattering much.


I disagree. A guy like that might win the left & right coast. There's a lot of ground in between though.

Ole crusty bastard 16 April 2019 15:21

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Originally Posted by btq96r (Post 1058790746)
I have a hard time believing anyone who is disinclined to vote for him because he's homosexual had that as the deciding point.

You are giving 'our' fellow citizens a lot more credit than I do.

Fubar 16 April 2019 15:33

Purple Texas will vote for the guy - moreso than Beta Beto. There's a very strong LGBTQfillintheblank voting block in the major cities.

billdawg 16 April 2019 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mingo Kane (Post 1058790744)
OR.....or....the stupid public will see the POTUS lambasting the MSM for their shortcomings, and the stupid voters eat it up...again. :tongue:

i hope brother. I'm just very pessimistic when it comes to stuff I want.

Cujo 16 April 2019 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ole crusty bastard (Post 1058790749)
You are giving 'our' fellow citizens a lot more credit than I do.

+1.

I hate tying race and sexual orientation together, because they don't mix, but that's like saying "I'm having a hard time believing anyone who is disinclined to vote for him because he's black had that as a deciding point" when concerning President Obama...

Gray Rhyno 16 April 2019 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by KS11 (Post 1058790710)
Michelle Obama is who I think gets the D nomination. She's hanging back and letting all the other idiots move as far left as possible, while maintaining just enough publicity to not be completely forgotten about.

I think she waits until things go full swing and then comes out as the "progressive, but not as crazy as Bernie/Beto/Warren/Booker/Harris" candidate.

I agree. Right now the candidates are like crabs in a barrel. Her wise move is to stay out of the fray until they exhaust themselves, then swoop in and take the candidacy.
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Originally Posted by grog18b (Post 1058790735)
But... at least POTUS is getting shit done. Finally, a POTUS with a sack.

I agree. Love him or hate him, he's doing what he said he was going to do and pissing off a lot of people while doing so.

leopardprey 16 April 2019 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by btq96r (Post 1058790746)
If you're focusing on Mayor Pete being gay, you're going to miss the boat. I have a hard time believing anyone who is disinclined to vote for him because he's homosexual had that as the deciding point. On a national level, while the country may still not want a gay President, I don't think it's to the point where that will decide the issue...we're just far enough beyond it mattering much.

What's making this guy the latest buzz (who may or may not last) is he comes across as a refreshing breath of fresh air compared to the rest of the stale pack. Being a mayor, some form of results need to develop sooner rather than later, which looks a lot more impressive than sitting in committee hearings where all you do is talk and stall the opposition party. Pete's also helped by not being from the coastal areas, and Democrats not in a state bordering an ocean (some of whom voted for Trump in 2016) have been waiting for someone from the party to speak in something that resembles their language for a minute now. Being young and having optimism helps a lot too for Democrats

I have no idea if we're still talking about this guy past Labor Day, but he's a nice change of pace from the norm in my mind. At the latest, I'm glad to see someone who served stepping up. For me, that's something I want more of, regardless of what side of the isle they're on.

And that attitude right there is why we will have a Homosexual in the White House.

Yes, it does matter. And yes, the complacency and the fact that his sexual lifestyle does not matter to many, is a real telling point for America and the direction we have been going and will be going. The complacency to be politically correct, to not take stand by many RepublicAn cucks, the fear of many on the right not wanting to be labeled in a negative way, this is our downfall.

Box was correct in his post, and Mayor Buttingieg will bring it home for the Democrats. And most Americans will not care cause they have their Bread and Circuses.

leopardprey 16 April 2019 16:26

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Originally Posted by Cujo (Post 1058790754)
+1.

I hate tying race and sexual orientation together, because they don't mix, but that's like saying "I'm having a hard time believing anyone who is disinclined to vote for him because he's black had that as a deciding point" when concerning President Obama...

And again, that is part of the problem where now one's lifestyles or beingvtrsnsgebderd is looked at as an inherhited trait such as race. And objecting to anyone's sexual lifestyle is viewed upon the same as being racist or being a member of a white supremacist organization. Combine that with a society that wants more free stuff, security with comprimising on liberties and you have a the New America coming.

Box 16 April 2019 16:33

Waaaay back in the late 1950's a catholic dude ran for president - history tells the story of an American voting public that thought there was no way a catholic could win over an incumbent VP.
...that guy had a LOT of recreational sex - and his belief system didnt keep him out of the oval office. Peter Buttplug has as good a chance as anyone else. Besides, Americans as a collective are just too stupid to vote beyond anything superficial. We vote for whatever is cool this week.

Its in our blood......................


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grog18b 16 April 2019 16:33

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Originally Posted by Gray Rhyno (Post 1058790755)
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I agree. Love him or hate him, he's doing what he said he was going to do and pissing off a lot of people while doing so.

Which is why I don't mind him so much. He has too much money to give a shit about "special interests" and isn't afraid to call the leftist media out on their "obvious to anyone with a half a brain cell" bullshit.

Finally, someone who doesn't have to tow the party line. Did he piss off Republican politicians? Yup. Did he piss off Democrat politicians? Yup. But... those only make up a small portion of the voters. It's the voters who matter, and DC can't stand being reminded of that fact. Neither can the media. They really hate being called "fake" by the leader of the free world, but they more than deserve that moniker after all the shit they have pulled in the past, that they were never called out on because no former POTUS had the sack. This guy doesn't give a shit about them, and they hate, I mean really HATE him because of it.

As far as the gay dude goes, yeah, I'd vote for Kid A for President if he decides to run. He can fit that Vespa right in the trunk of the Presidential Limo.

Fu King Lawyer 16 April 2019 16:39

In politics 30 days is an eternity. We are a year and a half out of the General Election.

I suggest the biggest threat is the economy. Millennials aren't educated and don't understand it. I think Goldman Sacs, et al, were very invested in both Pres Obama and SecState Clinton and they are capable of manipulating numbers to make it appear going south. It would be within the realm of possibility that some might be willing to attempt to collapse it - to make sure their candidate is elected.

I'm listening to news reports today with folks claiming there refund "from the IRS" is smaller this year. It is in fact, their money that they "loaned" to the govt and are getting back, withholdings dropped after the tax cut and they haven't the common sense to figure it out.

btq96r 16 April 2019 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by leopardprey (Post 1058790758)
And that attitude right there is why we will have a Homosexual in the White House.

Yes, it does matter. And yes, the complacency and the fact that his sexual lifestyle does not matter to many, is a real telling point for America and the direction we have been going and will be going. The complacency to be politically correct, to not take stand by many RepublicAn cucks, the fear of many on the right not wanting to be labeled in a negative way, this is our downfall.

Box was correct in his post, and Mayor Buttingieg will bring it home for the Democrats. And most Americans will not care cause they have their Bread and Circuses.

It matters to you, not me. Aside from my libertarian leanings on sexual preference (their business, not mine)...I don't care if we have a homosexual in the White House as long as they preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. We've gotten pretty far from that in recent memory.

If sexual preference matters more than competency for the job in your estimation, that's your prerogative as a voter and I respect that prerogative. I'm going to care about what he might do in the office rather than in the bedroom when deciding my vote.


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