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Justaclerk 12 September 2018 15:42

Go Ruck Selection Welcome Party
 
From last year. Brutal but the standards are the standards. Great commentary from the cadre.

Link here.

Part one (embedded in the page) features Richard Rice.

Devildoc 12 September 2018 16:18

I have enjoyed the GRs that I have done, but have retired from the community.

Selection? That's a whole 'nother thing.

Justaclerk 12 September 2018 16:23

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Originally Posted by Devildoc (Post 1058748130)
I have enjoyed the GRs that I have done, but have retired from the community.

Selection? That's a whole 'nother thing.

I've got a couple more in me, but I will not commit to more than two a year. 2016 and 2017 wiped me out and I had to take six months off to get over some nagging injuries.

leopardprey 12 September 2018 20:56

Why don't these young people just join the Army and go Ranger of SF, or Marine MARSOC or Navy SEAL?

8654maine 12 September 2018 21:00

double tap

8654maine 12 September 2018 21:01

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Originally Posted by leopardprey (Post 1058748218)
Why don't these young people just join the Army and go Ranger of SF, or Marine MARSOC or Navy SEAL?

I did a GR Tough when I was 48.

I like doing these but the amount of strutting and "yeah, I could have been a badass (insert whomever)" is just embarrassing.

gavin 12 September 2018 21:13

To each their own, I suppose. I can't understand why someone would put up with hazing and silliness just to get a t-shirt or some sort of bragging rights.

Ranger275 12 September 2018 22:38

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Originally Posted by gavin (Post 1058748222)
To each their own, I suppose. I can't understand why someone would put up with hazing and silliness just to get a t-shirt or some sort of bragging rights.

I agree. Most likely because it lasts a short period of time versus a 4-6 year enlistment which results in something meaningful...maybe.

Devildoc 13 September 2018 08:25

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Originally Posted by 8654maine (Post 1058748220)
I did a GR Tough when I was 48.

I like doing these but the amount of strutting and "yeah, I could have been a badass (insert whomever)" is just embarrassing.

And this is why I have gotten away from the community. The amount of faux-badassery is just insane. Many people who do them think "based on...training" is same as "completed training and have deployed."

My own workout group has formed a ruck club (cool: it's great exercise), but they like going out in the worst weather, in the middle of the night, and brag about hauling a 40# ruck 6, 8, or 10 miles. I just roll my eyes....

poison 14 September 2018 10:49

I'm amazed at how successful these have become. I'm not sure why you would do this, as opposed to a regular adventure race, 24hr mt bike race or other endurance activity, etc.

I still want one of their stupid bags, though.

Dark Helmet 14 September 2018 10:54

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Originally Posted by Ranger275 (Post 1058748240)
I agree. Most likely because it lasts a short period of time versus a 4-6 year enlistment which results in something meaningful...maybe.

This.

Devildoc 14 September 2018 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by poison (Post 1058748586)
I'm amazed at how successful these have become. I'm not sure why you would do this, as opposed to a regular adventure race, 24hr mt bike race or other endurance activity, etc.

I still want one of their stupid bags, though.

They have a cult-like following. I've done some, yeah, they are fun, whatevs. I have done them with friends which made it enjoyable to me.

The bags also have a cult-like following, and they just had a significant price increase. The people who do GR will absolutely go ape-shit on you if you even remotely suggest that there are other bags "as good as." They are as big a group of Kool-Aid drinkers as has ever been....

poison 14 September 2018 11:07

As a self-professed bag whore, I have a strong desire to test their opinion on those bags. :p

As much as I may not get it, I commend them for finding a niche and successfully combining a lifestyle thing with product sales. It's like if I made you pay to fly out and drink my coffee, while I beat you about the head with my wet sweaty judo gi, and you went home and bragged about it, then roped your buddies into doing it again together 6 months later. lol

leopardprey 14 September 2018 11:38

I have an event I make all my martial arts students go through before they can progress to the advanced forms. Been doing for years and the students do like it, as it does push them to limits. Makes them earn the right to learn the advanced forms. And for some considering military service , gives them a small glimpse and for others a challenge.

I don't tell them what the events are just that it will
Be all night long. They spend several hours at the school doing drills, conditioning, getting Smoked, full contact sparring, ground fighting, etc.

Then I blind fold them and drive them out to a remote part of the county, rural farm land or woods. Tie up their hands. Drop a couple of rucks in their midsts and tell them find their way back to the school. Then I drive off. It is straight line distance about 14 miles back to the school. Then when they get back to the school early morning, I make them do drills and sparring again for a couple of hours. Then I blind fold them again, say one last event, and then drive them to a greasy spoon cafe where i treat them to a big breakfast. They get a token and special edition book for completing the event.

Students have to complete this event along with several other unique challenges , and a handgunsnd carbine course I teach, along with profiency in the art and all it's forms, skills and drills to be awarded a Black Sash and Certicate of completion. Traditionally no ranks in my art, but I have this at my school to give the students a goal to shoot for and encourage them to progress.

leopardprey 14 September 2018 11:50

Now in terms of one wants a good "ruck" challenge? Without having to enlist, I say go hike the Appalachian or Pacific Crest trail. Or if a time constraint the Wonderland trail at Mt Rainer national park (I have done it twice and I consider it the best hikes in the world - and this is coming from a guy that has had five treks in the Himalayas).

Or if one wants that real ruck international adventure, go trekking in Nepal or India.

My three personal events I have yet to do and want to, if I ever get the time , funding or fitness level again:

Two week Japanese alps trek
Bhutan Snowman Trek
Nepal Everest Marathon

Gray Rhyno 14 September 2018 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by poison (Post 1058748586)
I'm amazed at how successful these have become. I'm not sure why you would do this, as opposed to a regular adventure race, 24hr mt bike race or other endurance activity, etc.

It reminds me of Crossfit, not that I participate in either Crossfit or GoRuck, in that it's more a social "thing" than a fitness "thing". The group culture seems to have a lot of appeal to a certain segment of society. I'm not sure why, but I'd like to hear any insight if anyone has some.

leopardprey 14 September 2018 11:59

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Originally Posted by poison (Post 1058748596)
As a self-professed bag whore, I have a strong desire to test their opinion on those bags. :p

As much as I may not get it, I commend them for finding a niche and successfully combining a lifestyle thing with product sales. It's like if I made you pay to fly out and drink my coffee, while I beat you about the head with my wet sweaty judo gi, and you went home and bragged about it, then roped your buddies into doing it again together 6 months later. lol

I counted it up the other day, and I have 19 backpacks. Lol

Vintage WWII mountain ruck
Two Army Alice large rucks
Lowes Special Forces issue ruck
Three custom packs from Mchale and company
Two North face packs
Badlands hunting pack
Vintage Lowe panel pack
Two maxpedition packs
Dana Design Bridger Ruck
Mystery Ranch three day assault
Camelbak talon ruck
Kelty Pack
Old Ecko Pack
Mountain Smith pack
Eddie Bauer Pack

One of the maxpedition packs, the mystery ranch, the talon pack and the Dana design pack are the three I pretty much have been using though for about the last 8 years for work and play.

leopardprey 14 September 2018 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by poison (Post 1058748596)
As a self-professed bag whore, I have a strong desire to test their opinion on those bags. :p

As much as I may not get it, I commend them for finding a niche and successfully combining a lifestyle thing with product sales. It's like if I made you pay to fly out and drink my coffee, while I beat you about the head with my wet sweaty judo gi, and you went home and bragged about it, then roped your buddies into doing it again together 6 months later. lol

Talk about hype driving profit. I don't see it in their bags at all. Wayyy overpriced laptop/day pack. Good marketing on their part $$$$$. Do their event, buy their ruck.

You can get a much better made, more comfortable ruck from Mystery Ranch or Mountain Hardware.

And a 5.11 pack, like their 72 hr ruck, will cost about $100 less and is more comfy and versatile.

leopardprey 14 September 2018 12:51

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Originally Posted by Gray Rhyno (Post 1058748616)
It reminds me of Crossfit, not that I participate in either Crossfit or GoRuck, in that it's more a social "thing" than a fitness "thing". The group culture seems to have a lot of appeal to a certain segment of society. I'm not sure why, but I'd like to hear any insight if anyone has some.

PM sent.

Armitage12 14 September 2018 14:14

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Originally Posted by Devildoc (Post 1058748592)
They have a cult-like following. I've done some, yeah, they are fun, whatevs. I have done them with friends which made it enjoyable to me.

The bags also have a cult-like following, and they just had a significant price increase. The people who do GR will absolutely go ape-shit on you if you even remotely suggest that there are other bags "as good as." They are as big a group of Kool-Aid drinkers as has ever been....

When I did one I was astounded to find that people had driven more than twelve hours to attend it. Several had come from Canada. Seriously?


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