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busyworks 28 June 2018 17:55

USMC reserve ANGLICO
 
I'm currently working overseas in Kuwait, but looking into joining the USMC reserves upon my return. I'm a prior service USMC E5 communicator, and interested in possibly lateral moving into 0861. (0211, and 032x are also options)

Anyone have a POC at 4th ANGLICO out of West Palm Beach, FL?

Or any possible insight into reserve ANGLICO units, or attending the 0861 schoolhouse as an E5?

Much appreciated.

swamppirate 28 June 2018 19:36

Sorry cant help you on that side of the house....I did work with some Anglico’s in Ramadi, pretty squared away dudes. Best of luck!

Forestboy 28 June 2018 19:40

Per the forum rules, please post an introduction here: http://www.socnet.com/showthread.php?t=73033&page=627

busyworks 1 July 2018 20:32

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Originally Posted by Forestboy (Post 1058733649)
Per the forum rules, please post an introduction here: http://www.socnet.com/showthread.php?t=73033&page=627

posted.

Gray Rhyno 1 July 2018 21:54

What was your active duty MOS? About a third of the enlisted Marines in the ANGLICO units are 0621s.

Forestboy 1 July 2018 21:56

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Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058734162)
posted.

Excellent.

Have you talked to a prior service recruiter yet? They will likely be your best source of info.

I spent 5 years on I&I duty, 2000-2005, you could join the SMCR units back then as an MOS mis-match, as long as you "promised" to go to the MOS school within the first two years.

Getting the seats to the schools was not difficult as there are a certain number allocated each year for prior service folks changing MOS's (This was still the case when I retired in 2013 as I handled the school seats for my MOS), the difficult part was getting the Prior Service Marines to go to the schools once they had their life established, ie: with a 9-5 job that didn't necessarily want to give them the time off to go to the school.

Highly recommend talking with the Prior Service Recruiter that recruits for ANGLICO, call the regular recruiter in the town where the unit you want to drill with is, they likely have the PSR's number.

Top0321 1 July 2018 22:54

Here's a link for 3rd & 4th ANGLICO. Contact the unit SgtMaj, explain your situation and he should be able to get you squared away. I'm sure they do this quite a bit. Good luck.

https://www.marforres.marines.mil/Ma...p/3rd-ANGLICO/

https://www.marforres.marines.mil/Ma...p/4th-ANGLICO/

busyworks 3 July 2018 13:50

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Originally Posted by Gray Rhyno (Post 1058734172)
What was your active duty MOS? About a third of the enlisted Marines in the ANGLICO units are 0621s.

0651, but I deployed twice as an individual billet where I was the psuedo comm chief, supporting all aspects of comm, and doing quite a bit of non-comm related things.

busyworks 3 July 2018 14:03

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Originally Posted by Gray Rhyno (Post 1058734172)
What was your active duty MOS? About a third of the enlisted Marines in the ANGLICO units are 0621s.

0651, but I deployed twice as an individual billet where I was the psuedo comm chief, supporting all aspects of comm, and doing quite a bit of non-comm related things.

busyworks 3 July 2018 14:08

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Originally Posted by Forestboy (Post 1058734173)
Excellent.

Have you talked to a prior service recruiter yet? They will likely be your best source of info.

I spent 5 years on I&I duty, 2000-2005, you could join the SMCR units back then as an MOS mis-match, as long as you "promised" to go to the MOS school within the first two years.

Getting the seats to the schools was not difficult as there are a certain number allocated each year for prior service folks changing MOS's (This was still the case when I retired in 2013 as I handled the school seats for my MOS), the difficult part was getting the Prior Service Marines to go to the schools once they had their life established, ie: with a 9-5 job that didn't necessarily want to give them the time off to go to the school.

Highly recommend talking with the Prior Service Recruiter that recruits for ANGLICO, call the regular recruiter in the town where the unit you want to drill with is, they likely have the PSR's number.

I have been in contact with with a PSR for over a year now. Since before I took this contracting gig. He has been extremely slow in getting my tattoo waiver package completed, and does not reply very often. I'm about to reach out to another PSR.

Another member of this forum got me in touch with a SSgt at 4th ANGLICO.

Forestboy 3 July 2018 18:04

Do you still have IRR time?

Gray Rhyno 3 July 2018 18:47

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Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058734539)
0651, but I deployed twice as an individual billet where I was the psuedo comm chief, supporting all aspects of comm, and doing quite a bit of non-comm related things.

Good deal; I imagine they'd love having an 0651 with all the data stuff ANGLICO is doing these days.
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Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058734541)
Another member of this forum got me in touch with a SSgt at 4th ANGLICO.

You'll enjoy the work.

busyworks 4 July 2018 12:18

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Originally Posted by Forestboy (Post 1058734581)
Do you still have IRR time?

Yea, but I'm cutting it close. That brings up a good point.

I'm assuming it's harder to get back in once you're out of the IRR?

busyworks 4 July 2018 12:19

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Originally Posted by Gray Rhyno (Post 1058734588)
Good deal; I imagine they'd love having an 0651 with all the data stuff ANGLICO is doing these days.

I sense sarcasm here aha

Gray Rhyno 4 July 2018 13:26

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Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058734716)
I sense sarcasm here aha

Not at all. When I left in 2009, ANGLICO was pushing a lot of data across radio nets. We only had one 0651 and he was very busy.

Forestboy 4 July 2018 18:44

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Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058734715)
Yea, but I'm cutting it close. That brings up a good point.

I'm assuming it's harder to get back in once you're out of the IRR?


If you fall off contract it is much harder.

We had guys who were IRR show up out of the blue to drill and switch to SMCR. There were no waiver's required.

busyworks 4 July 2018 19:30

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Originally Posted by Gray Rhyno (Post 1058734728)
Not at all. When I left in 2009, ANGLICO was pushing a lot of data across radio nets. We only had one 0651 and he was very busy.

Oh! Ok yeah, I can see them using all kinds of IP over radio protocols, satcom stuff, integration of gear into data networks, etc.

I was thinking more in the sense of traditional data marine duties, like running the help-desk ahaha.

busyworks 4 July 2018 19:32

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Originally Posted by Forestboy (Post 1058734783)
If you fall off contract it is much harder.

We had guys who were IRR show up out of the blue to drill and switch to SMCR. There were no waiver's required.

That's what I figured. I need to see exactly how much time I have left, or if I can extend my IRR status.

I believe I may have 8-9 months left upon returning from this gig.

EShepp 1 August 2018 14:05

My advice would be to lat move into the 0861 field.
There's more oportunities in both 3rd and 4th ANGLICO as an enlisted 61 than there are as an 06.
Unit's use to be able to send enlisted 0621's through TACP school but this has since been curtailed. The enlisted TACP seats for all the ANGLICO's are exclusively filled by 61's now.
There's also 6th ANGLICO to think about. New unit. Still in need of NCO/SNCO's willing to stick around for awhile.
PM me if you need more info. Ive got some contacts at all three of them.

busyworks 3 August 2018 01:01

Yeah, thats what I figured. I was actually pretty set on lat-moving anyways. Wasn't the biggest fan of my MOS.

PM sent.

CoDela 9 November 2018 16:53

6th ANGLICO in Washington is a good option, as EShepp stated. Not sure if that flight is cheaper from MI to WA than MI to LAX.

Any luck on finding a unit?

busyworks 13 November 2018 18:11

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Originally Posted by CoDela (Post 1058761418)
6th ANGLICO in Washington is a good option, as EShepp stated. Not sure if that flight is cheaper from MI to WA than MI to LAX.

Any luck on finding a unit?

Not yet. Still about 3 months out from returning stateside. Reached out to a PSR in FL, and got no reply.

I actually just got in touch with the SgtMaj out at 6th ANGLICO. Will be giving him a call soon.

busyworks 30 December 2018 18:36

Found out more information, and got in touch with a lot of people, and it looks like I may be doomed/ineligible because of my TIS/TIG. While in the IRR, I am now in zone for E6, and will not be able to conduct a Lat-move into 0861 (from what I've heard).

To be more specific i'm in zone in my original MOS (0671/0679 for E6), but just barely under zone for 0861.Apparently if they can make the argument that I'm not in zone for 0861, and send me to the MOS school, I will be in zone immediately next fiscal year with very little credibility in my new MOS.

anyone have any opinions on this?

May look into other options such as TACP/CCT in the ANG/Air Force Reserves, or other MOS' in the USMC Reserves like 0211, 2336 that I may be eligible for a Lat-move into with my current TIS/TIG. I'd even take a voluntary rank in reduction if that was possible.

busyworks 30 December 2018 18:50

one more thing to note, on MOL my AFADBD 00000000.

Not sure if that has any impact on anything.

busyworks 31 July 2019 18:01

So turns out I was too senior to conduct a latmove into 0861 with the Marine Reserves.

I got a conditional release form apprived and I'm joining the 19th SFG(A) as either 35P, or 25C depending on my ability to obtain a TS(SCI).

I was wondering if there are any radio guys on here that have been in an SF group, or anyone that knows any 25 series dudes that have gone to JFO or a JTAC qualifying course. The recruiter mentioned that it was possible to go JFO/JTAC as a signal dude, and I wanted to see how accurate this was.

I know that the 18 series guys can attend the SOF JTAC course, so the chances are pretty low, but yea. I spoke with a contact of mine who is the Fires NCO/JTAC manager at an SF group and he said it WAS possible, but there needs to be a reason for it.

CAP MARINE 1 August 2019 09:39

Met a young man yesterday here in Norman, Oklahoma, he has friend that is with the 6th. No other info than that.if I see him again I will get a name

AlphaVictor 1 August 2019 21:17

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Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058807810)
So turns out I was too senior to conduct a latmove into 0861 with the Marine Reserves.

I got a conditional release form apprived and I'm joining the 19th SFG(A) as either 35P, or 25C depending on my ability to obtain a TS(SCI).

I was wondering if there are any radio guys on here that have been in an SF group, or anyone that knows any 25 series dudes that have gone to JFO or a JTAC qualifying course. The recruiter mentioned that it was possible to go JFO/JTAC as a signal dude, and I wanted to see how accurate this was.

I know that the 18 series guys can attend the SOF JTAC course, so the chances are pretty low, but yea. I spoke with a contact of mine who is the Fires NCO/JTAC manager at an SF group and he said it WAS possible, but there needs to be a reason for it.

If you don't mind me asking, what is your desired outcome here? Are you looking to be a JTAC, JFO/fires guy, or be a support guy at an SF group? I'm confused as to the job that you truly want. If you could clear that up, maybe I or others on here can help.

SN 1 August 2019 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058807810)
So turns out I was too senior to conduct a latmove into 0861 with the Marine Reserves.

I got a conditional release form apprived and I'm joining the 19th SFG(A) as either 35P, or 25C depending on my ability to obtain a TS(SCI).

I was wondering if there are any radio guys on here that have been in an SF group, or anyone that knows any 25 series dudes that have gone to JFO or a JTAC qualifying course. The recruiter mentioned that it was possible to go JFO/JTAC as a signal dude, and I wanted to see how accurate this was.

I know that the 18 series guys can attend the SOF JTAC course, so the chances are pretty low, but yea. I spoke with a contact of mine who is the Fires NCO/JTAC manager at an SF group and he said it WAS possible, but there needs to be a reason for it.

Go Air Guard as a TACP.

AlphaVictor 1 August 2019 23:10

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Originally Posted by SN (Post 1058808097)
Go Air Guard as a TACP.

That's pretty much what I was getting at.

busyworks 2 August 2019 02:36

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Originally Posted by AlphaVictor (Post 1058808075)
If you don't mind me asking, what is your desired outcome here? Are you looking to be a JTAC, JFO/fires guy, or be a support guy at an SF group? I'm confused as to the job that you truly want. If you could clear that up, maybe I or others on here can help.

I was set on being a JFO/JTAC within a reserve ANGLICO unit, however that was not possible due to TIS/TIG restrictions. I decided to join 19th Group as a support guy.

However if having an additional duty as a JFO/JTAC is possible then that would be great.

hawkdrver 2 August 2019 05:09

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Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058808113)
However if having an additional duty as a JFO/JTAC is possible then that would be great.

I'm sure it's not what you meant, but a JTAC qual isn't an additional duty kind of thing.

Very few folks do it well, and most of them that do qualify for BTDT tags here.

If you're serious about doing it, find a Guard or Reserve TACP unit and apply there.

Just my $.02.

AlphaVictor 2 August 2019 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058808113)
I was set on being a JFO/JTAC within a reserve ANGLICO unit, however that was not possible due to TIS/TIG restrictions. I decided to join 19th Group as a support guy.

However if having an additional duty as a JFO/JTAC is possible then that would be great.

Not to rain on your parade, but the likelihood of becoming a JTAC as SF support is very low. Between Air Force TACPs, Combat Controllers, Army Rangers and Green Berets, your chances of getting a seat at JTACQC or even SOTAC are extremely slim. They military desperately needs JTACs, but there's only so many you can train at once, and the preponderance of slots go to Air Force TACPs. Basically what I'm getting at is if you want to blow things up with close air support, be a TACP. I can almost guarantee you there won't be the same issue with your TIS/TIG, especially with the chronically low manning currently plaguing Guard TACP squadrons. If this is something that interests you, message me directly and I can put you in touch with the unit nearest you or just shed some more light on the career field as a whole.

Silverbullet 2 August 2019 09:34

Good gouge. Thanks for proving it for him.

busyworks 2 August 2019 13:50

Oh, no. I whole heatedly agree with you guys. I didn't mean to brush it off as just something to do on the side.

For now I chose a different route, but when the recruiter mentioned that was an option as a support dude with his unit, it obviously caught my attention

Just wanted to verify if any of you had heard of that, or if that guy was just blowing smoke up my ass. Definitely seems like the latter.

Thanks again for the replies. Didn't mean to make it seem like I was understating the importance/difficulty of the FO/JTAC career field.

82Redleg 2 August 2019 15:21

The ARNG can do different things, and there are obviously exceptions to every rule in the military. That said, I've never seen an Army JTAC that wasn't 18-series or a 13F. I'm sure there's one, likely more than one, somewhere, but it's not exactly common, normal or routine.

AlphaVictor 2 August 2019 15:58

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Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058808205)
Oh, no. I whole heatedly agree with you guys. I didn't mean to brush it off as just something to do on the side.

For now I chose a different route, but when the recruiter mentioned that was an option as a support dude with his unit, it obviously caught my attention

Just wanted to verify if any of you had heard of that, or if that guy was just blowing smoke up my ass. Definitely seems like the latter.

Thanks again for the replies. Didn't mean to make it seem like I was understating the importance/difficulty of the FO/JTAC career field.

You didn't do that at all, no worries. I, and I'm sure the others who replied just want to help make sure you have all the information necessary to make an informed decision about career choice, free of rumor and hearsay. I wish you the best of luck on your endeavors.

busyworks 3 August 2019 03:07

I definitely appreciate the feedback. I was just worried that I was coming across the wrong way.

I got some legitimate replies from everyone that will hopefully help some other people too who are also looking for info on similar topics.

hawkdrver 3 August 2019 05:05

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Originally Posted by busyworks (Post 1058808326)
I was just worried that I was coming across the wrong way.

LOL. If you had you would have already heard about it more directly :biggrin:

The guys here are trying to help you, but manage your expectations at the same time.

What I probably didn't communicate effectively in my previous post is that it's a difficult specialty to stay current and qualified in, much less proficient, even if you do it full time, for a few reasons mentioned above. Guys that are good at it when it's a qual maintained outside their primary MOS are few and far between, and among those the vast majority, at least that I've run across, have been SOF.

I was both a ground ALO and airborne qualified FAC before the JTAC designation came about in 2003. It was probably the most difficult checkout I've done not counting the Sandy qual. It was also one of the most rewarding.
Great community to be in. I can dig up some contacts to a few ASOS units if you're so inclined.

swamppirate 6 August 2019 12:19

PM me with questions.


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