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Old 18 August 2019, 08:58
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Originally Posted by grog18b View Post
Because then they can point to all those gun laws and say "see those gun laws are too weak, we need tougher gun laws because these don't work..."

The thing is, all these shitbags who are out on the street doing this crap with guns are not normal gun owners, they are career criminals.
Yup. When you take suicides and any gang related shootings out of the equation - the murders from firearms plummets.

When you finally decide you are going to commit suicide, you will do it no matter what - go look at the UK - they prefer hanging themselves. Suicide has got to be the biggest bogus anti-gun tactic on the planet.

From the remaining murders - various studies put "scumbag" initiated murder at 50-80% of the rest.

"Crazy middle class white guy that snaps" murder is so friggen low - but gets all the headlines from the people that want to impose their MORAL beliefs on the LEGAL system.
On February 20, 2018, President Trump issued a memorandum instructing the Attorney General “to dedicate all available resources to… propose for notice and comment a rule banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns.”

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time”

“Take the guns first, go through due process second”

"Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court"
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