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Old 23 December 2017, 08:34
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advice needed

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i am a recently qualified psd operative & am trying to start a serious carreer with it. i have very little experience except military & MOD contracts,i have been advised that there is a certain way to approach employers & that it is difficult to get started in this line of work. i am a british citizen & speak french aswell & was just looking for any pointers & also if its possible to work for an american company? my training was completed in texas,thanks in advance for any help
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Old 23 December 2017, 10:27
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How are you recently qualified for PSD work? I take it you attended a High Threat PSD course here in the United States and they gave you a certificate?
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He's a Brit. I'm assuming he is referring to SIA Level 3 Certification (what the UK govt requires for someone to work in an Executive Protection capacity).
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Old 23 December 2017, 11:20
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He's a Brit. I'm assuming he is referring to SIA Level 3 Certification (what the UK govt requires for someone to work in an Executive Protection capacity).
That was my original assumption, but the end of the post states that he completed his training in Texas. No SIA training in Texas that I know of.
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Old 23 December 2017, 11:22
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your eyes are better than mine... I completely missed TX somehow..

Im not even aware of a nationally recognized EP/PSD training program in TX thats open to non mil/leo personnel..

There's the TX lvl 4 PPO course (state requirement for EP guys).. but thats all I am aware of..
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If in the case you did a Level 3 SIA qualifying course in Texas (or elsewhere) and you get a SIA license, you can also use said card to get the French CNAPS card to work as CP in France (think Nice/Cannes/C˘te d'Azur). Definitely can potentially open more doors since you speak French.
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Yes I’ve got those cards aswell which I’ve come to understand are possibly useless but I’ve also got PSD as this is the reason i did it in texas. And your very correct they do not take civilians
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How are you recently qualified for PSD work? I take it you attended a High Threat PSD course here in the United States and they gave you a certificate?
Yes 4 week intensive PSD hostile zones training & nra approved weapons
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Old 24 December 2017, 06:36
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your eyes are better than mine... I completely missed TX somehow..

Im not even aware of a nationally recognized EP/PSD training program in TX thats open to non mil/leo personnel..

There's the TX lvl 4 PPO course (state requirement for EP guys).. but thats all I am aware of..
3 yrs raf & 5yrs military & after contracted for mod,sorry i wrote it wrong
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Who did you attend training with? What course did you take?
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Old 24 December 2017, 12:43
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Who did you attend training with? What course did you take?
It was with preatorian bodyguard & it was the complete course.ok so now all this is cleared up is there any chance of any info ? Cheers
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Old 24 December 2017, 14:05
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It was with preatorian bodyguard & it was the complete course.ok so now all this is cleared up is there any chance of any info ? Cheers
Never heard of the training company you attended. They are full of red flags though...

FYI, not sure when you attended their training. However according to the TX Department of Public Safety, their license as a security training company expired in November. They may be in the process to renew, but I'm not seeing it. They are showing on the SIA page so that's a plus.

Long story short, you attended training that is not really recognized by anyone, at least here in the US, as a reputable training provider. I doubt this course will open any doors for you, as it didn't really qualify you to do anything. Sorry but it's the harsh truth. If you already had your SIA then you didn't really garner any value out of this program. Maybe they got you your Level 4 for the state of Texas, that you can check on your own through the TXPSB website.

Are you trying to do Executive Protection? Or are you trying to go do High Threat security? There's a big difference, and the requirements are not identical.

...this picture says all I really need to know about Praetorian...for a guy that's so concerned about showing his face, he sure appears in a lot of pictures...looking like a complete douchebag with that mask on.

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IM, are you a British citizen? Is English your first language?

Grammar, spelling, punctuation, sentence structure etc etc. Methinks you would be surprised as to the populace of this board.

Subject-Verb Agreement, Dangling Participles, and all that shit.
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Icemonkey, with that company on your CV you might have an interesting time trying to get in the "door" at least with any UK or FR/EU companies, not impossible of course but because it's associated/affliated with IFS2I in France, which does not have a good reputation (to put it lightly) in France/EU. They were fined 30K Euro earlier this year for some naughty stuff, but looks like they are still operating as an entity.

If you can read French:

http://haute-savoie.gouv.fr/content/...l17recueil.pdf

Not sure what exactly the relationship is between Praetorian Bodyguard and IFS2I, but they seem to be pretty much of the same formula, if not same management. Clicking for the English version of IFS2I website leads directly to the Praetorian Bodyguard website.

For those that might be curious...

ifs2i-formation-securite.com

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IM, are you a British citizen? Is English your first language?

Grammar, spelling, punctuation, sentence structure etc etc. Methinks you would be surprised as to the populace of this board.

Subject-Verb Agreement, Dangling Participles, and all that shit.
Absolutely 100++ what he said.

Mate, with your background, you are sure to know a Brit or two who has been on the Circuit. Reach out to them and get the good oil. You are a Brit that speaks French ... were you a Legionnaire?

IMHO from the point of view of a non US guy, you picked the wrong time to leave the service looking for work. Unless you have a US Passport, most recruiters are not even going to look at you, if they get passed your terrible writing skills.

So serious question, what are your other options? That is a question you need to answer for yourself.

My 5 cents worth on Christmas Day as a fellow Commonwealth bloke.

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Old 25 December 2017, 08:51
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Icemonkey, with that company on your CV you might have an interesting time trying to get in the "door" at least with any UK or FR/EU companies, not impossible of course but because it's associated/affliated with IFS2I in France, which does not have a good reputation (to put it lightly) in France/EU. They were fined 30K Euro earlier this year for some naughty stuff, but looks like they are still operating as an entity.

If you can read French:

http://haute-savoie.gouv.fr/content/...l17recueil.pdf

Not sure what exactly the relationship is between Praetorian Bodyguard and IFS2I, but they seem to be pretty much of the same formula, if not same management. Clicking for the English version of IFS2I website leads directly to the Praetorian Bodyguard website.

For those that might be curious...

ifs2i-formation-securite.com
Well Praetorian is licensed under Olga Gasser, the wife of Cyrille Gasser, who is supposedly the Director of Operations for IFS2I (according to his LinkedIn page).
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Never heard of the training company you attended. They are full of red flags though...

FYI, not sure when you attended their training. However according to the TX Department of Public Safety, their license as a security training company expired in November. They may be in the process to renew, but I'm not seeing it. They are showing on the SIA page so that's a plus.

Long story short, you attended training that is not really recognized by anyone, at least here in the US, as a reputable training provider. I doubt this course will open any doors for you, as it didn't really qualify you to do anything. Sorry but it's the harsh truth. If you already had your SIA then you didn't really garner any value out of this program. Maybe they got you your Level 4 for the state of Texas, that you can check on your own through the TXPSB website.

Are you trying to do Executive Protection? Or are you trying to go do High Threat security? There's a big difference, and the requirements are not identical.

...this picture says all I really need to know about Praetorian...for a guy that's so concerned about showing his face, he sure appears in a lot of pictures...looking like a complete douchebag with that mask on.

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Old 25 December 2017, 17:05
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IM, are you a British citizen? Is English your first language?

Grammar, spelling, punctuation, sentence structure etc etc. Methinks you would be surprised as to the populace of this board.

Subject-Verb Agreement, Dangling Participles, and all that shit.
Well i apologize profusely but i did not subscribe here to have my grammar corrected by university professors,and in my defense i have been speaking & writing another language for 12 years. Is it not customary for the jury to obtain all the facts about a person before condemning him /her?
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Just reading this thread, but perhaps we can assist the OP instead of dog-piling the OP.
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aps we can assist the OP instead of dog-piling the OP.
Before the fireworks start, let me interject for one moment. To the OP, although it is not apparent to you, those who criticized your grammar and spelling are actually trying to help you...the first impression you project must be that of an articulate, put- together professional. How you represent yourself in writing may be your one shot at getting further in the hiring process. So take the criticism as a blessing rather than a curse. As for the rest of the matter, I have no experience. Good luck and Merry Christmas.
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