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Old 12 May 2020, 14:15
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Cell phone tracking

I have no idea how long the providers are retaining the mega data,

I was just out in the truck and heard a report that a new Corona outbreak was being tracked that originated in a bar district in Seoul, Korea. Once the outbreak was identified, the Korean authorities were reported to be using cell phone and credit card data to locate potential cases.

It seemed odd to me that macro data from individual towers is being maintained for any period of time. You have X number of cell phones "pinging" the tower, but not talking/texting so there wouldn't be much incentive for the providers to retain data that can't be used to "bill" the customers.

Apparently the providers are now maintaining it all. And for how long?

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200408000918

The Google search revealed the story reported in the western media.
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Old 12 May 2020, 14:29
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There are many other interests that pay providers for that data. Everything from geo location to time spent in a given space, to orientation of the phone. This is only a finger nail, of course. Combine that with all of the other phones in the vicinity, and you get a really detailed map that feed into patterns-of-life analysis, and more.
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Old 12 May 2020, 17:51
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As CV alluded to, selling that data to advertisers is big business. Don't need to text or call for your cellphone usage to be a commodity.
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Old 13 May 2020, 08:40
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Typically, telecom providers keep the data for a year for billing purposes, and research; such as load balancing, infrastructure, coverage gaps.
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Old 13 May 2020, 09:43
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Originally Posted by Fu King Lawyer View Post
I have no idea how long the providers are retaining the mega data,

<Snip>

Apparently the providers are now maintaining it all. And for how long?
South Korean government might mandate retention of that data,
for intel/security porpoises, with consideration of who lives next
door.
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Old 13 May 2020, 18:18
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South Korean government might mandate retention of that data,
for intel/security porpoises, with consideration of who lives next
door.

Forgive me for speculating, my cynical self thinks that somewhere in that classified spending for our intelligence agencies, our government is paying the companies to do the same.
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Old 13 May 2020, 18:22
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Anyone noticing that their phones are being pinged more often than usual?
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Old 13 May 2020, 19:52
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Most countries do not have the restrictions like the US has. Working my job in the US is so restrictive. I love the work outside the US and it makes me appreciate the protections we usually have except when rogue people abuse our capabilities (FBI, etc). Thank god I do not work for them. I would be having a lot of ethical fights at work.
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