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Old 15 November 2018, 18:43
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If guilty, life without parole is too good for them.
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Old 16 November 2018, 13:57
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I hope they hang from the elevator shaft at FT Leavenworth.
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Old 17 November 2018, 00:13
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The silence of the respectable NSW folks on this board is deafening. I, as a plank owner am disgusted. RIP Soldier.
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Old 17 November 2018, 00:40
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I am going to withhold judgment until the verdict is in. The accused are just that, accused. They deserve due process and the presumption of innocence.
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Old 17 November 2018, 01:09
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I am going to withhold judgment until the verdict is in. The accused are just that, accused. They deserve due process and the presumption of innocence.
Noble as your statement may be, they admitted to choking him.....to death.
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Old 17 November 2018, 11:01
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The silence of the respectable NSW folks on this board is deafening. I, as a plank owner am disgusted. RIP Soldier.
That's rich coming from a Marine, where two Marines are also implicated. What the fuck is there to say? Do you think silence is condoning the behavior? That's classic Jarhead logic right there. What it is is embarrassing and disgusting, but none of the NSW members of this board had any control over those two asshats just like you had no control over the two Marines involved.

If they are guilty, fuck 'em all. Good Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines don't do this shit.
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Old 17 November 2018, 12:42
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That's rich coming from a Marine, where two Marines are also implicated. What the fuck is there to say? Do you think silence is condoning the behavior? That's classic Jarhead logic right there. What it is is embarrassing and disgusting, but none of the NSW members of this board had any control over those two asshats just like you had no control over the two Marines involved.

If they are guilty, fuck 'em all. Good Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines don't do this shit.
Whoa.....I'm not trying to start an inter-service keyboard war on SOCNET. As I stated in a few posts in this thread, I'm disgusted, physically ill and professionally embarrassed by the entire episode. Guilty or not, IMHO this is a black eye for both MARSOC and NSW. Being much younger and smaller than NSW, this incident, true or not, will be tough for the Raiders to recover from.
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Old 17 November 2018, 13:00
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Whoa.....I'm not trying to start an inter-service keyboard war on SOCNET. As I stated in a few posts in this thread, I'm disgusted, physically ill and professionally embarrassed by the entire episode. Guilty or not, IMHO this is a black eye for both MARSOC and NSW. Being much younger and smaller than NSW, this incident, true or not, will be tough for the Raiders to recover from.
Sorry. I jumped to the conclusion that you were calling the NSW membership out. What can one say about this? It is indeed a black eye.
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Old 17 November 2018, 13:07
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That's rich coming from a Marine, where two Marines are also implicated. What the fuck is there to say? Do you think silence is condoning the behavior? That's classic Jarhead logic right there. What it is is embarrassing and disgusting, but none of the NSW members of this board had any control over those two asshats just like you had no control over the two Marines involved.

If they are guilty, fuck 'em all. Good Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines don't do this shit.
Classic Jarhead logic? What gives you the status to insult Marines?

Answer- nothing.

As to WGH statements, anyone with reading comprehension knows what he was stating, plus he's a plankholder at MarSoc.
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Old 17 November 2018, 13:33
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I disagree that WGH0922's initial statement was clear. He did follow up and I apologized for misunderstanding.
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Old 17 November 2018, 13:35
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Frankly this isn't a debate on what you think. You aren't going to blanket insult Marines and act like you're the protector of the SEAL members of this board.

It's as simple as that.
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Old 17 November 2018, 15:51
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Old 18 November 2018, 19:58
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The silence of the respectable NSW folks on this board is deafening. I, as a plank owner am disgusted. RIP Soldier.
Some of us have just been too busy to dedicate lots of time to SOCNET lately and delve into this discussion, but if found guilty of taking a fellow Americans life over greed, you should know my answer...
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Old 19 November 2018, 11:01
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If they are guilty then they need to pay the man for this. Add the murder accusations against SOC Gallagher... Not good for NSW...
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Old 19 November 2018, 13:56
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I hope they hang from the elevator shaft at FT Leavenworth.
That's a deeper statement than most people realize.
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Old 21 November 2018, 18:23
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If guilty, fuck them and let 'em hang, regardless of their achievements or branch.

A team member died and those involved changed their stories multiple times.

Let the investigation continue and let justice occur.

This is not a reflection of NSW or MARSOC folks that I know.
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If they are guilty then they need to pay the man for this. Add the murder accusations against SOC Gallagher... Not good for NSW...
Obviously, not a Team Guy but I heard his brother and former SEAL Gillum discussing Chief Gallagherís situation on Hannity last night. Gillum seemed to be on his side. Obviously, his brother believes heís innocent. BLUF: Fucked up if he did it but if heís being railroaded I think itís worse. Curious to see how this one shakes out.
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Old 5 December 2018, 15:03
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I obviously know nothing about this case. I'd say based on some personal experience when teammates who have absolutely no incentive to lie or throw you under the bus to save themselves voluntarily go on record about your actions you have a big, big problem.
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Old 5 December 2018, 15:26
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Any update on this? I always had issues with NSW being involved in this type of work as they don't seem to like the mission and all the rules that go with it.
That's fucking laughable. It transcends SOF, etc.
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Old 5 December 2018, 15:31
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I obviously know nothing about this case. I'd say based on some personal experience when teammates who have absolutely no incentive to lie or throw you under the bus to save themselves voluntarily go on record about your actions you have a big, big problem.
Why are you posting if you know nothing about this case? If you knew anything about this case, you'd know that your personal experience about "teammates" throwing people under the bus doesn't apply in this case.
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