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Old 22 December 2017, 22:37
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That's the crux: when they get caught. There's no viable way to prove definitively what is being throttled and what isn't, as compared to QoS, which is absolutely needed for a more efficient experience on the Internet. Any solution to this would require an immense amount of government oversight and involvement--which is ironic to calls for a free an open Internet.
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Old 23 December 2017, 02:35
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You don't monitor the internet, you monitor the providers. When some company does the hanky panky, you pay incentives for their employees to dime them out, and then you crush said company and put their executives in prison. Like the way the justice system is supposed to work, you make it prohibitively expensive to do the wrong thing by punishment. Rather than try to nanny state and prevent the action before.it happens. S/F...Ken M
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Old 24 December 2017, 16:16
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You don't monitor the internet, you monitor the providers. When some company does the hanky panky, you pay incentives for their employees to dime them out, and then you crush said company and put their executives in prison. Like the way the justice system is supposed to work, you make it prohibitively expensive to do the wrong thing by punishment. Rather than try to nanny state and prevent the action before.it happens. S/F...Ken M
Correct, you could create a construct to monitor the providers. That process is going to be a nightmare without an immense amount of authority and integration with the government. Everything else you mentioned is entirely too authoritarian for my blood. I could never support that.
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Meh, it's the same as regulating any other utility(as well as the way we should be regulating Wall Street, etc). Pass law saying all data must be treated the same, in order to prevent shitty providers from stovepiping their competitors. Then offer $$ rewards to employees to dime out bad behavior. When H1B slave dimes out out the first offender for one months wages and forgiveness of past immigration "transgressions"(or whatever), crush the entire company and imprison their execs "pour encourager los autres", obviously assuming the charges are legitimate. Repeat as needed.

Imagine controlling silicon valley and other tech tyrants like the US polices the gun industry....

Either we break a noted progressive corporate bulwark, or we get favorable court cases to use to free up the gun industry(etc)

I've come around to Mako's way of business. S/F....Ken M
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In 2017 (and for a while now) Internet access should be ruled a utility, like electricity and gas. That would be a fight for the ages to see.
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Old 28 December 2017, 11:39
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The only thing I see coming of this is the ISP's actually charging you for the product you use. You know, supply and demand.. You want 1TB of data a month, well, it cost this much? Kinda like every other entity in this country. You want it, you pay for it.
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Old 28 December 2017, 22:55
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The only thing I see coming of this is the ISP's actually charging you for the product you use. You know, supply and demand.. You want 1TB of data a month, well, it cost this much? Kinda like every other entity in this country. You want it, you pay for it.
As a society we would probably benefit a lot from this, since it would force people to get away from their computers once in a while.
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Old 28 December 2017, 23:36
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The only thing I see coming of this is the ISP's actually charging you for the product you use. You know, supply and demand.. You want 1TB of data a month, well, it cost this much? Kinda like every other entity in this country. You want it, you pay for it.
Make it a utility with a charge for exact usage like electricity. Government prevents price gouging by putting out isp utility contracts for bids regularly with the standards for performance monitored.
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Old 29 December 2017, 09:59
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Make it a utility with a charge for exact usage like electricity. Government prevents price gouging by putting out isp utility contracts for bids regularly with the standards for performance monitored.
Exactly
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Make it a utility with a charge for exact usage like electricity. Government prevents price gouging by putting out isp utility contracts for bids regularly with the standards for performance monitored.
I don't disagree. Congress needs to get involved if it were to work this way.
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