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Old 17 June 2019, 05:34
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Experimental PTSD treatment

I just read this article about a new treatment the VA is doing and wanted to pass it along.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sgb-a-p...5ByQwpnWyGQgMk
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Old 17 June 2019, 07:43
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I have no idea what PTSD does to someone. I think it is very personal, as some talk about it and some keep it locked up...
The VA needs all the help in modern medicine etc to help our brothers and sisters.
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Old 30 June 2019, 07:55
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Snake oil. That treatment has been around for awhile.

https://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/ho...tsd-treatment/
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Old 30 June 2019, 10:20
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Did you read that article?

It says it helped. It also says the placebo helped. The mind is a powerful tool and if using a placebo helps someone then that is much better than doing nothing especially since the placebo used is usually benign.
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Old 30 June 2019, 11:32
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If we use this article as a baseline for the number diagnosed:

https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/heal...tics-veterans/

The “sham study” used 1/3 of 1% of the diagnosed population.

I can’t see how 42 out of more than 12,000 proves or disproves anything...
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Old 30 June 2019, 19:04
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I wouldn't discount it so quick!
I've spent the past year dealing with a TBI that went untreated for quite a while, which brought along with it, according to the guy who runs the brain treatment unit at Emory University, Major Agitated Depression and Major PTSD. I've never been one to buy into "depression" and "PTSD", because frankly, I've never felt like I've been particularly traumatized. But when a doc can rattle of physiological symptoms, it's hard to argue. That said, I had a doc put me through a series weekly ketamine injection treatments for four weeks straight. A treatment that was thought to be fairly radical not too long ago, is now still a little weird, but it is absolutely effective. Their are ways to trigger new blood vessel growth and electrical connections. So this doesn't seem particularly too far out of the question.
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Old 5 July 2019, 15:56
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New clinical testing and research is being done with psilocybin in very low level micro-dosing amounts with good results so far. it is thought that the chemical properties of psilocybin can help rewire the natural neuropathic connections in the the brain along with therapy to bring back normal chemical functions of the brain. Research was being conducted in the late 60's and 70's with psilocybin to help with depression and many other irregular brain function ailments until it was all halted by Nixon's war on drugs campaign in 73, I think.

Hopefully it can help some without the destructive effects of SSRI's and other psychotropic medications for many people who suffer daily with PTSD, Depression, TBI and so on. Family members with some of these conditions is the catalyst to my interest on the subject.

I hope something positive comes out of these trials because the current medication regimens to me seem to hurt just as much as they might help.
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New clinical testing and research is being done with psilocybin in very low level micro-dosing amounts with good results so far. it is thought that the chemical properties of psilocybin can help rewire the natural neuropathic connections in the the brain along with therapy to bring back normal chemical functions of the brain. Research was being conducted in the late 60's and 70's with psilocybin to help with depression and many other irregular brain function ailments until it was all halted by Nixon's war on drugs campaign in 73, I think.

Hopefully it can help some without the destructive effects of SSRI's and other psychotropic medications for many people who suffer daily with PTSD, Depression, TBI and so on. Family members with some of these conditions is the catalyst to my interest on the subject.

I hope something positive comes out of these trials because the current medication regimens to me seem to hurt just as much as they might help.
Yes, to all of that from personal POV
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Old 6 July 2019, 14:06
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I know folks within USASOC who have received this treatment with positive effect.
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Old 6 July 2019, 14:35
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They are doing some pretty significant research with psilocybin at John Hopkins...

https://www.businessinsider.com/john...dule-5-2018-10
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Anyone see the recent articles on PTSD blood tests?

It’s being reported that there may be blood tests required before and after deployments.

I see this as a possible double edged sword....get tagged with a PTSD blood marker and next thing you know your on a red flag gun prohibition list.
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They are doing some pretty significant research with psilocybin at John Hopkins...

https://www.businessinsider.com/john...dule-5-2018-10
It fucking works.
I spent over two years dealing with a treatment resistant brain injury, and along with the TBI, it came with a diagnosis of major agitated depression and severe PTSD. Docs words.

I was given a course of micro-dosing, AND had 6, once a week ketamine IV infusions. Shit saved my damn life. No shit.

New blood flow and electrical activity in the brain. It was as if the depression and PTSD were cut out by a scalpel. After the first treatment with the ketamine, I could feel and "understand" a difference. By the sixth treatment, totally felt rebooted and clear.
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