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Old 11 December 2014, 12:17
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Two grand? Wow! I just saw the link. Haha...no. I think I spent $150 on mine from Moosejaw. They have the new version for about $179

http://www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/sho...8_10000001_-1_
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Old 11 December 2014, 12:44
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Damn nice bag, JAFO! I, too, just about had to change the Depends when I went to that link. Other than a dependable bag, what are the colors one looks at. My self, it's black. When I googled the Gregory Z40 pack, it was depicted in VS-17 panel orange. I just can't see me humping that color if I need a go bag.

Oh, and 20buckbandit, you fucked up a great opportunity with JAFO, and many others. Nice would be my watchword when I came back. I would have looked into getting one myself, as I am in the market, but not being quite as smart as many of these guys, nor motivated enough to go to CVS and build my own kit, I look for recommended complete kits. Your attitude thus far makes this product a no-go at this station.
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Old 11 December 2014, 13:34
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Guys, here's another Amazon pricing for the Z40: http://www.amazon.com/Gregory-Mounta...ds=gregory+z40

That particular one comes in blue, yellow, red and black.

Seems that there are other Gregory bags as well.
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Old 11 December 2014, 13:36
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How could I possibly Operate while wearing a big orange bag on my back? Can't you make it in like Tiger Stripe pattern or something to match my face paint?
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Old 11 December 2014, 14:01
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I was going to nominate 20$Bandit for the "How Not to Post" Thread but I see RGR.Montcalm has edited most of his posts. It's been a while since there was a good nominee for the how not to thread...
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Old 11 December 2014, 14:15
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Damn nice bag, JAFO! I, too, just about had to change the Depends when I went to that link. Other than a dependable bag, what are the colors one looks at. My self, it's black. When I googled the Gregory Z40 pack, it was depicted in VS-17 panel orange. I just can't see me humping that color if I need a go bag. .
What? You don't want to highlight yourself in a SHTF senario? I thought you 160th guys were "adventurous".

Here's a shot of the new Z40 pack (in black):
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Old 11 December 2014, 14:51
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This might not apply to every scenario so take it for what is worth.

There was a brief time that as a civilian in a foreign country I kept a go-bag that had some probability of having to be used on short notice as part of a no-shit EE plan.

For scenarios in which you need to be out among the unwashed masses as part of an E&E or survival scenario, you obviously won't want a day-glo pack but you also won't want a pack that looks (or smells) new or has any military pattern. You'll want a deceptively good civilian pack that looks old and worn. It should be devoid of any identifying designs. I would keep the old adage that "nothing natural in nature is black" in mind as well.

Keep an eye open at garage sales or thrift shops.
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Old 11 December 2014, 15:00
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Valuable observation, HDSL. One well worth remembering.
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This might not apply to every scenario so take it for what is worth.

There was a brief time that as a civilian in a foreign country I kept a go-bag that had some probability of having to be used on short notice as part of a no-shit EE plan.

For scenarios in which you need to be out among the unwashed masses as part of an E&E or survival scenario, you obviously won't want a day-glo pack but you also won't want a pack that looks (or smells) new or has any military pattern. You'll want a deceptively good civilian pack that looks old and worn. It should be devoid of any identifying designs. I would keep the old adage that "nothing natural in nature is black" in mind as well.

Keep an eye open at garage sales or thrift shops.
Let me throw this out for the tradecraft experts. What about hiding in plain sight? There are lots of WalMart branded packs with ACU and similar camo patterns. While multi-cam may be out, some of the other .mil offerings may not stick out so bad.
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Old 14 December 2014, 10:56
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This might not apply to every scenario so take it for what is worth.

There was a brief time that as a civilian in a foreign country I kept a go-bag that had some probability of having to be used on short notice as part of a no-shit EE plan.

For scenarios in which you need to be out among the unwashed masses as part of an E&E or survival scenario, you obviously won't want a day-glo pack but you also won't want a pack that looks (or smells) new or has any military pattern. You'll want a deceptively good civilian pack that looks old and worn. It should be devoid of any identifying designs. I would keep the old adage that "nothing natural in nature is black" in mind as well.

Keep an eye open at garage sales or thrift shops.
Get a pack in "real tree camo", that seems to be the new "fashion" for Koreans and Japanese - from what I witnessed recently

Check out the Mystery Ranch Sweet Pea, Rush, and Snap Dragon line up. Been using a Mystery Ranch 3 day assault in Multi Cam, that I heavily modified, and love this pack. Now getting a sweet pea is olive/foilage for more daily use/travel. Very effective packs, but blend in more with civilian trekking/travel clothing.

http://www.mysteryranch.com/mountain-adventure/hiking-climbing-packs
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Old 14 December 2014, 11:48
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I have no connection to this company, but depending on the level of threat you may want want to protect against.
http://www.amazon.com/BulletSafe-Bul...rds=bulletsafe

If you have unused soft side panels around you can put them to use like this for less.
If you put something like this in a back pack you really don't notice the extra weight. A couple of bottles of water, a few energy bars a blowout kit and a couple of extre mags. in almost civilian style back pack may be enough.
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Old 17 December 2014, 06:47
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http://www.wearvertx.com/edc-gamut-bag.aspx

These packs look like they would be good to go. Plenty of pockets for organization.
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I would keep the old adage that "nothing natural in nature is black" in mind as well.
Except for the dark of night, killer whales, penguins, black bears, bats, panthers, horses, cows, wolves, snakes...
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Old 20 December 2014, 14:21
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Except for the dark of night, killer whales, penguins, black bears, bats, panthers, horses, cows, wolves, snakes...
Fair point. Will keep that mind next time I have a plan to E&E as Shamu.
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I was going to nominate 20$Bandit for the "How Not to Post" Thread but I see RGR.Montcalm has edited most of his posts. It's been a while since there was a good nominee for the how not to thread...
And also how not to market to, and insult, a potential customer base. Had he spent 30 minutes perusing SOCNET he would have seen there are no less than 5 multi page threads dedicated to E&E/TEOTWAWKI/Bug Out Bags, etc., not to mention many threads where people have been able to market their products, services, books, etc.

He might not have been able to set up his retirement from this site but he certainly could have made some sales.
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And also how not to market to, and insult, a potential customer base. Had he spent 30 minutes perusing SOCNET he would have seen there are no less than 5 multi page threads dedicated to E&E/TEOTWAWKI/Bug Out Bags, etc., not to mention many threads where people have been able to market their products, services, books, etc.

He might not have been able to set up his retirement from this site but he certainly could have made some sales.
I think you guys hurt his feelings
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Old 20 December 2014, 20:06
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Way to reel 'em in TFG.
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Old 21 December 2014, 13:56
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http://www.amazon.com/BulletSafe-Bul...rds=bulletsafe
"Currently unavailable". I wonder if this anything to do with H.B 5244.
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I think you guys hurt his feelings
Yeah, anybody want to put money on him coming back after his "break"? Nobody comes back after a failure that complete.
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Yeah, anybody want to put money on him coming back after his "break"? Nobody comes back after a failure that complete.
Yes but ya can't fix stupid. My vote is he will come back to try to justify himself.
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