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Old 11 March 2009, 11:39
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Excellent info, thanks.

- How much did AMU itself help with lining up jobs? I know they have a section dedicated to helping graduating members.

- How big is the difference (from an employer standpoint) of a BS vice a BA?

- I have strongly considered USC or UCLA (especially considering the new coming GI Bill benefits) but am weighing the options.... AMU provides a very specific, security focused course but the other schools are much more widely recognized. your .02?


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1. I did not use their job placement program so I could not comment on the first question.

2. I recommend a BS because during my search I found many employers who discriminated against BAs. The job requirements often would require a BS vice a BA with few or no other stipulations as far as type of degree. It was never the reverse though (requiring a BA vice a BS). Obviously this will depend greatly on what you want to do. I will add that my current position actually required an engineering degree in the announcement but I rolled the dice and it paid off. For anyone trying to get into the defense sector, FLEO, or other government oriented/contractor gigs, I would definitely recommend a more technical degree; it opens more doors and sets you apart from the crowd.

3. It’s hard to say for sure because every employer is different. That being said, I would guess that unless the school is Ivy League caliber it won’t make a huge difference (AMU versus another university). For most companies, like CV said, it's a check in the block to get you in the door.

Like I said earlier, I wish I could have afforded to go to a traditional brick and mortar but only because I think I would have enjoyed the interaction and experience more. Online school is sterile and can be boring. On the flip side, I finished my bachelors in half the time it would have taken me at the local state university here. With my military SMART transcripts and a handful of transfer credits from community college I finished it in 12 months but I was doubled up on courses and not working. The state university wanted to start me as a freshman (they basically laughed at my SMART transcripts).
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Old 12 March 2009, 03:36
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Getting a BS does seem much more practical.

Thanks again for the info, and best of luck with your hiring process.
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FYI: I just found out that PMP translates into 9 graduate level credits at AMU. If you hold a PMP certification, make sure to include it during the credit transfer process.
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Old 31 December 2012, 16:00
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FYI: I just found out that PMP translates into 9 graduate level credits at AMU. If you hold a PMP certification, make sure to include it during the credit transfer process.
That is great to know. I am getting ready to take my PMP exam (ugh) and am looking at graduate degrees for next year.
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Old 31 December 2012, 18:53
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I am scheduled to attend my first 2 classes at AMU on Jan. 7th. I figured its been 10 years since I got out, so I better get started with that GI Bill. Plus, another $674 bones a month for taking 2 classes every 8 weeks ain't bad either. I'm pursuing a Security Management degree. Anybody recommend it/advise against that particular degree? Since my other degree is in CJ, and I work in the security filed now it couldn't hurt. I may change my mind down the road and get the degree in something else and just get a certificate in Security Management. I already have a useless degree that I can't really parlay into anything here in Europe, so no use pigeonholing myself again:).
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Good for you dude...Seriously. Just from looking at jobs, reading about events, and seeing laws introduced,...If I could do it all over again I would choose information security. Just my .02. Good luck man.
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Old 31 December 2012, 19:04
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Good for you dude...Seriously. Just from looking at jobs, reading about events, and seeing laws introduced,...If I could do it all over again I would choose information security. Just my .02. Good luck man.
Right now its just the General Security Mgt degree. I might have to look into the Information Security concentration. Thanks dude.
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Old 31 December 2012, 20:48
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I am scheduled to attend my first 2 classes at AMU on Jan. 7th. I figured its been 10 years since I got out, so I better get started with that GI Bill. Plus, another $674 bones a month for taking 2 classes every 8 weeks ain't bad either. I'm pursuing a Security Management degree. Anybody recommend it/advise against that particular degree? Since my other degree is in CJ, and I work in the security filed now it couldn't hurt. I may change my mind down the road and get the degree in something else and just get a certificate in Security Management. I already have a useless degree that I can't really parlay into anything here in Europe, so no use pigeonholing myself again:).
Bachelors or Masters? Is your other degree a bachelors? It seems like if you already have a bachelors, you'd be better off getting a masters instead of another bachelors.
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Old 31 December 2012, 22:24
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Bachelors or Masters? Is your other degree a bachelors? It seems like if you already have a bachelors, you'd be better off getting a masters instead of another bachelors.
Sorry, I should have clarified. Actually its an Associates in Criminal Justice since I had to leave school a semester short of graduation back in 1999 due to financial resources drying up and the school in which I was attending was ridiculously expensive. And pussy. I'm still waiting on my transfer credit evaluation from AMU. I had 98 semester hours from my previous school. I'll be lucky if I get even half of those credited. I picked Security Management since its what I work in now and will most likely stay.
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Happy New Years everyone.
I hope everyone had a safe and happy New Years.

Hostile 033:

Regarding your question you obtain your degree in Security Management. I have seen a number of individuals lately who I have conducted their security clearance investigations for have a security management degree. Some of the individuals were already GS/GG employees but many were new hires for the Dept of the Army, and Defense Contractors. A would say about a 60/40 between the individuals having Masters and BA in the field. Some of the positions that the individuals were being hired for were in the area of Personnel Security Specialist, Physical Security etc..

I hope you like AMU. I took numerous graduate level National Security and Military History classes through them, and really enjoyed them.
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Old 1 January 2013, 10:11
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Sorry, I should have clarified. Actually its an Associates in Criminal Justice since I had to leave school a semester short of graduation back in 1999 due to financial resources drying up and the school in which I was attending was ridiculously expensive. And pussy. I'm still waiting on my transfer credit evaluation from AMU. I had 98 semester hours from my previous school. I'll be lucky if I get even half of those credited. I picked Security Management since its what I work in now and will most likely stay.
Then it makes sense to me.
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I see that you guys are talking about the security management plan of AMU and I have been working on the Criminal Justice B.A. General program for about two years on and off with other things arising. Overall this institution is very good at working with your schedule and at the same time making sure you understand your coursework. In criminal justice I have taken several courses along the lines of security and forenics and now I am thinking of realigning my academic plan towards a B.S.
This means some different classes and little more time becuase I was not thinking that the B.S. with forensics pays more in most places. Just a thought for those attending. Overall I enjoy the school and anyone attending CJ in B.A. for now hit me up.
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Old 1 January 2013, 11:20
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Then it makes sense to me.
That's my dilemma. In my current job, it would help but not that much. I'm already over qualified for the position I'm in with just the AA, year in Corrections and 4 years in the USMC. The degree may help elsewhere, just not that much here. My wife wants to stay put here in Malta. I may just get the Security Management Cert and get my BA in English. Teaching English as a Foreign Language is big business over here in Malta. You won't get rich but American teachers are in high demand here and the classifieds are filled with job opportunities. I'm thinking I might get my BA in English, MA in Security Management and then see how much mula is left over from Uncle Sugar for follow courses as needed. In today's world, it pays to be diverse. I'm a big fan of the 5 point contingency plan.:)

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I'm starting back up at AMU next week. Finished an AA in May of '12 and want to get that elusive BA in Management.

I want to try and take 3 classes at a clip while I have the time but dont want to screw myself with that load.

Any recommendations on a "low impact" class to take? Its just going to be an elective credit for me and I am considering doing another language class since that was relatively easy (just rosetta stone, no papers, etc..).
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AMU - First Impressions

After completing a third of my graduate program at AMU's School of Security and Global Studies, I decided to leave a short review. Of course, all below falls within FWIW/YMMV category. These are just my impressions from the first four classes, all taken with different professors.

1. I'll start with the good. The quality of prescribed readings is excellent. Some classes require certain (text)books and others provide a large number of articles, white papers, research studies, and so on. I was especially pleased with the fact that a lot of recommended publications come from RAND - they do some bad ass work. So, I give them a solid "B+" for reading materials.

2. Professor credentials. I urge everyone to check professors' bios before signing up for their classes. I have already noticed a few cases of Giduck, i.e., professors teaching subjects with no relevant operational or academic experience (e.g., I remember seeing a bio of a guy whose whole career was purely admin yet he teaches transnational crime and narcotics? I don't think so). I had to significantly alter my planned class schedule so I do not end up with some Been Nowhere Done Nothing subject matter experts. "C+" for professor credentials.

3. Quality of instruction. Of course, it is impossible to compare online environment to B&M schools but still I naively expect professors to participate, respond to questions in a timely fashion, etc. So far I had one professor who was very hands on, one professor whose presence in the classroom was occasional, and two professors who were MIA throughout the whole semester. This is very disappointing considering my experience doing grad work at UMUC where 85% of my professors actively engaged students, shared experience, and were available to help, if needed. "C" for quality of instruction, given the fact that in 50% of my classes instruction was pretty much absent.

Bottom line: you can still learn but you really have to focus on readings and engage your more experienced classmates so you can pick their brains.
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IMHO, PMP makes a lot of sense, for a lot of people, in a lot of lines of work. Project Management as a major course of study in a college program does not. One may be better served learning a broader discipline (such as IT, accounting, construction, etc.) and have the PMP (or other similar project management training) as a secondary skill which helps support/utilize the major discipline.
I just applied for the opportunity to study for and take the PMP exam. I feel like my application was on the weaker side, but what the heck,..the worst they can say is no. I should find out if I'm approved to move forward to take the exam in the next 5 days or so.

After reading this thread, is the content going to be IT heavy? I really thought it would have more to do with project life-cycles, accountability, budgets, and deliverables across a wide range of industry projects.

For those who are PMP's, does the content and exam focus on mostly computer/IT/networking life-cycles? And if so was there a serious learning curve if you werent already IT savvy?

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Trig,

Personally, I did not feel that the exam was IT-oriented at all. The logic of most projects, IT or not, is very similar: you have to start, plan, execute, and finish (in simplistic terms, of course). The IT industry has been brainwashed by the PMI the most, but the exam itself is not IT-heavy whatsoever.

If you have any questions, let me know. Maybe we should have an Everything About PMP thread.
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Personally, I did not feel that the exam was IT-oriented at all. The logic of most projects, IT or not, is very similar: you have to start, plan, execute, and finish (in simplistic terms, of course). The IT industry has been brainwashed by the PMI the most, but the exam itself is not IT-heavy whatsoever.

If you have any questions, let me know. Maybe we should have an Everything About PMP thread.
Cool, I really appreciate it GWAG.
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Update. I'm on my 5th and 6th classes so far. All A's and one B+. I'm taking 2 classes every 8 weeks. I hope to have my degree by this time next year. All the instructors I've had have been very involved in classes. PM's were answered in minimal time and they worked with me when I've had some family problems. The onus is on the learner. Lots of reading and writing, but I feel I am learning a great deal. Maybe not as much as at a traditional institution, but working full time with 3 young kids AMU is a good fit for me. I will also say they stay on top of things with the VA. I have always gotten my BAH on time as well as the book stipends. If you work full time or are deployed, AMU is hard to beat IMO.
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I just started AMU today. I will post updates as I go through it. I think it's going to work out very well for me. I'm pretty anxious to see what I get for my transfer credits. I know a couple of courses I have been to will transfer a decent number of credits.
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