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Old 31 January 2017, 11:53
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There is a dynamic involved in this that few outside of Quebec (and Canada in general) can fully grasp...

There is a tension within Quebec, primarily amongst the most ultra-nationalist Quebecois (who were, and are IMHO, terrorist along the lines of the PIRA) WRT the influx of peoples of Islamic persuasion into Quebec...

Much like the plot line in The Highlander, "There Can Be Only One", the hard-corps Quebecois is akin to the skin-heads of Europe - but focused on the French Canadian ancestry issue, not entirely on race... There goal is Quebec as a stand-alone nation state and they pass laws within Quebec that all but exclude "anglophiles" and the English language from commerce, etc.

Bottom line - What we may have here is a frog skin-head, in essence, targeting a competing demographic because:

1. They are a competing demographic, the only competing demographic to get special carve-outs in the Quebec law, which is intolerable to the Quebecois. If they can get a carve-out, then Anglophones can begin to get carve-outs...

2. Attacking a mosque and its occupants will, in the long run, garner less blow-black to the Quebecois movement than an attack on any anglophile target in Quebec.


Like many things, you have to live the dynamic to understand how deep the roots of the issue are.

FWIW, and my .02 worth for general SA...
Nice write up.
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Old 31 January 2017, 13:44
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Nice write up.
I could go on for days about the fu^ktardery involved with the Quebec separatist movement...
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Old 31 January 2017, 14:46
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There is a dynamic involved in this that few outside of Quebec (and Canada in general) can fully grasp...

There is a tension within Quebec, primarily amongst the most ultra-nationalist Quebecois (who were, and are IMHO, terrorist along the lines of the PIRA) WRT the influx of peoples of Islamic persuasion into Quebec...

Much like the plot line in The Highlander, "There Can Be Only One", the hard-corps Quebecois is akin to the skin-heads of Europe - but focused on the French Canadian ancestry issue, not entirely on race... There goal is Quebec as a stand-alone nation state and they pass laws within Quebec that all but exclude "anglophiles" and the English language from commerce, etc.

Bottom line - What we may have here is a frog skin-head, in essence, targeting a competing demographic because:

1. They are a competing demographic, the only competing demographic to get special carve-outs in the Quebec law, which is intolerable to the Quebecois. If they can get a carve-out, then Anglophones can begin to get carve-outs...

2. Attacking a mosque and its occupants will, in the long run, garner less blow-black to the Quebecois movement than an attack on any anglophile target in Quebec.


Like many things, you have to live the dynamic to understand how deep the roots of the issue are.

FWIW, and my .02 worth for general SA...
Your synopsis of this part of the situation in Quebec is spot on. However Quebec has so many issues it could be discussed for eternity...
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Old 31 January 2017, 15:16
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Weird, no mention on CNN of what type gun he used since it's probably illegal anyway. They did make sure to point out that he participated in the Canadian Forces Cadet program though
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And what about the second guy, Mohammed Belkhadir?...he was supposed to be the one arrested on place...the other one, Bissonnette gave himself in a short time later....or so they said
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Supposedly the Moroccan origin guy was a witness who got mistaken for a suspect. Cue the conspiracy theories.
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Never realized all of the shit going on in Quebec. Thanks for the break down sixgun.
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Old 1 February 2017, 10:42
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Never realized all of the shit going on in Quebec. Thanks for the break down sixgun.
Threats are measured by factoring their capability with their motivation. When they see how their target actually responds to another threat, it may embolden them to think, "Hey, we may really be able to pull this off...."

When the product of the two (motivation and capability) reach a certain value, it changes the risk profile, in this case of Quebec and warrants some degree of mitigation.

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Old 1 February 2017, 12:21
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Never realized all of the shit going on in Quebec. Thanks for the break down sixgun.
If you are interested, try the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_...du_Qu%C3%A9bec

When done, please realize that the FLQ is not dead, by a long shot (no pun intended...).

Consider how long lasting the affection for the Confederacy was after Reconstruction, how the "ideal" of Nazi-ism persists, and the lingering disability we suffer today as a result of committed Marxist youth of the 70's moving into the professorships of today in our colleges and the circle of power in our government...

The FLQ lives - adapted, morphed, seeking outlets as they become available...
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Old 1 February 2017, 16:07
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White frenchy shoots up bunch of muslims in a mosque during prayer over immigration turmoil. The next couple decades of globalization are going to be lit.

I wonder what the Algonquin think of all that?
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