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Old 31 August 2015, 13:52
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Refugee crisis in Europe

First of all, why should YOU, as Americans, care about Europe? Afterall, it couldn´t happen to a nicer, more deserving group of countries, no? That might be, but drop your Schadenfreude for a moment and think. We are interconnected as members of a small and yet free western world, we have the same ancestors and face the same problems. Dire problems.


"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
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Hanlon´s razor


Since many years i am pondering one single question when watching history, live or in retrospective: "Design or Incompetence?". Those who believe in scripted events are, for a large part, nutty conspirationists (i´m included in that lot) while those who believe in the law of unintended consequences are regarded as realists, rightfully or not. However, the current refugee crisis in Europe makes it very hard to stay "realistic". All but the most indoctrinated are beginning to wake up and smell the liquid manure which is sold to them as Jamaica Blue Montain. How could they not, when they are literaly stumbling about the consequences in our inner cities(a). People are pissed of enormously, but criticism is immediately smeared as Nazi hate speech. The results are predictable – support for brown socialism is on the rise. It´s impossible, that the scum we call our politicians and its media goons can´t see that, couldn´t have known that. So where are we going to, and why?

The actions and their consequences:

1. Removal of Gaddafi – open corridor for refugees
2.Dropping of Mubarak and support for MB in Egypt- regional realignment (anti US/pro Israel and in case of Egypt, pro Russia as well)
3.No decisive action in Syria/Iraq- keeping the meatgrinder open for sunni and shia malcontents, strenghtening the regional realignment and producing millions of refugees
4.Inviting turkish military intervention in Syria- shattered ceasefire with PKK
5.Allowing hundreds of thousands of refugees into Europe(800k in Germany alone) while underfunding the UN WFP and HCR - overloading european social sytems and Nazi support on the rise.


Sources:
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http://www.br.de/radio/bayern1/inhal...5033fdd7a.html
http://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/...b-706736c2a137
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http://frontex.europa.eu/trends-and-...rranean-route/
2.
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prote...terests-369957
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCont...relations.aspx
3.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/04/30...yria-a-secret/
http://www.voanews.com/content/islam...t/2806890.html
http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e45ade6.html
http://www.wfp.org/news/news-release...splaced-iraqis
http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees...ad.php?id=9395
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http://nationalinterest.org/feature/...bad-idea-13741
5.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/right-...15-7?r=US&IR=T
http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/fl...6798.bild.html

Someone tries to connect the dots.
http://www.laetusinpraesens.org/docs...ugee_map_2.jpg
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Old 31 August 2015, 14:03
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Europe are fools for taking them in.

Give them weapons and send them back to take their hellholes back.
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Old 31 August 2015, 14:04
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Galatians 6:7 seems appropriate; at least the end of it...

"Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."
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Old 31 August 2015, 14:11
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Europe did it to themselves. Every time I tell people that it's the SAME mindset that shrieks back: "These are human beings fleeing from a WAR!".

Exhibit A. Just more of the West's obsession with committing cultural suicide.
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Old 31 August 2015, 14:31
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Human Beings that are FLEEING from War should pick up a gun and fight for their lives...

But they'd rather migrate to the West, and bitch about their "acceptance" in their new land...

Women and Kids only if I were King... You're a Military Aged Male? Here's your gun... Go earn your Freedom!

Like we need more pussies in the US...
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Old 31 August 2015, 14:56
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An older but relevant thread.

http://www.socnet.com/showthread.php?t=119348
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Old 31 August 2015, 15:07
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Human Beings that are FLEEING from War should pick up a gun and fight for their lives...

But they'd rather migrate to the West, and bitch about their "acceptance" in their new land...

Women and Kids only if I were King... You're a Military Aged Male? Here's your gun... Go earn your Freedom!

Like we need more pussies in the US...
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Preaching to the choir, buddy..........

I think you already know the response you'd get if you actually said that to the bleeding hearts out there.
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Old 31 August 2015, 15:57
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Like we need more pussies in the US...
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Like more pussy in the US is a "bad thing"?


sorry, I couldn't resist....
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Old 31 August 2015, 16:05
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Sorry, but WE need someplace to be our "canary in the coal mine". Someplace to turn to, point at, and say "This will happen to us if we don't pull our heads out of our a$$es!!!"

Europe has brought this completely upon themselves, I'm sorry to say. Their Tolerance At All Costs chickens are coming home to roost.
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Old 31 August 2015, 16:49
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Why do the problems of other nations have to be Europe's problem too? I could understand helping some of the people out but hundreds of thousands? And many of the refugees are coming from Islamic countries? Doesn't look good for Europe in the coming decades.
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Old 31 August 2015, 18:09
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Europe did it to themselves. Every time I tell people that it's the SAME mindset that shrieks back: "These are human beings fleeing from a WAR!".

Exhibit A. Just more of the West's obsession with committing cultural suicide.
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Human Beings that are FLEEING from War should pick up a gun and fight for their lives...

But they'd rather migrate to the West, and bitch about their "acceptance" in their new land...

Women and Kids only if I were King... You're a Military Aged Male? Here's your gun... Go earn your Freedom!

Like we need more pussies in the US...
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I guess we can close this one. IMO Germans need to grab their fucking balls again. Because of that whole WWII thing they've become pussyfied. They hate the Turks but won't say it in public. They hate the Eastern Europeans but won't say it in public. I hope all these "refuges" go there and get Kindergeld but don't assimilate. Let all these booger eaters soak up their robust social welfare programs and not contribute.

The French are getting after it in Africa but they need to change their policy at home. When the rubber meets the road "multiculturalism" doesn't work, immigrants need to assimilate.

In short, schadenfreude.
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Old 31 August 2015, 18:51
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Europe did it to themselves. Every time I tell people that it's the SAME mindset that shrieks back: "These are human beings fleeing from a WAR!".

Exhibit A. Just more of the West's obsession with committing cultural suicide.
Yep---the EU is solely responsible for this. Europe needs to wake up and smell some strong-black-coffee. Their foreign policy is what has caused this. The 1995 Schengen Agreement ensures free circulation of goods and people among 26 of the EU’s 28 countries. So what? EU policy has not only abetted a humanitarian catastrophe, but it is proving incapable of stopping the flow of migrants. Meh---I got no sympathy.
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Old 31 August 2015, 19:02
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Old 31 August 2015, 19:13
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My thoughts exactly. I don't give a shit what is happening to them. Unfortunately, they'll try to find a way for USA to bail them out.
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Yep---the EU is solely responsible for this. Europe needs to wake up and smell some strong-black-coffee. Their foreign policy is what has caused this. The 1995 Schengen Agreement ensures free circulation of goods and people among 26 of the EU’s 28 countries. So what? EU policy has not only abetted a humanitarian catastrophe, but it is proving incapable of stopping the flow of migrants. Meh---I got no sympathy.
Foreign Fighter Flow being the biggest issue.
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Old 31 August 2015, 20:18
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Funny this was posted here today; I spoke to a relative in Germany on the phone about this a few hours ago. In their area, a few thousand new refugees are being housed in former barracks and housing on a closed US Air Force base. The irony...

Also, due to the spike in crime caused by the refugees, a lot of Germans (at least those located where my relative lives) now wish they were allowed to own firearms to defend themselves at home and in public.

Reap what you sow indeed...
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I have an idea, let's send U.S and European troops to the middle east and end the wars once and for all. Then they can return home and everything will be alright.
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Old 1 September 2015, 04:35
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My thoughts exactly. I don't give a shit what is happening to them. Unfortunately, they'll try to find a way for USA to bail them out.
You should, we are your pack. And we are racing with you towards the cliff. While we seem to lead at the moment, dont underestimate the illegal mass immigration at your own unprotected borders. And a Camp of the Saints like outcome is far from guaranteed over here, as more and more Europeans turn to the Nazis.
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In their area, a few thousand new refugees are being housed in former barracks and housing on a closed US Air Force base. The irony...
It's happening all over the place here. All the former US Army Housing areas in Heidelberg (and several other places that we gave back the Germans) has been turned into refugee housing and within weeks its being trashed and local German Police are having tons of issues with them.
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Hey, third worlders behaving like third worlders.....how surprising.

Because the Euro governments are not doing anything useful, I'm sure they'll be all terribly shocked and surprised when the various Euro people eventually get tired of their stuff being stolen and their women getting raped and genocide all the foreigners without mercy. Idiots. S/F.....Ken M
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