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Old 5 September 2015, 07:50
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Because they´re part of the spiel. Predictable, its even worse over here. Last time i saw western media shamelessly using video of a dead kid was during the al Durrah incident. We are getting bombarded 24/7 with "poor them" propaganda. I guess its some kind of vaseline substitute for the gullible masses who know hey are about to get creamed...
I don't care.
NPR has been a leftish propaganda machine for decades. Updating the thread with what NPR said doesn't add to the discussion. It's not like what's happening is a secret and only NPR has the gouge.
Additionally, I addressed another member and am not quite clear why you thought you are in a position to try and correct me.
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Old 5 September 2015, 08:03
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I addressed another member and am not quite clear why you thought you are in a position to try and correct me.
I wasn´t aware that you were adressing poison in your role as an admin. If that was the case, my SA was clearly lacking and i apologize.
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Old 5 September 2015, 08:44
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Good rule of thumb. If I make absolutely no attempt to debate the point and ask why a subj has been introduced- it's a good indication I'm not just engaging in small talk.
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Old 7 September 2015, 11:14
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Lesbos Overwhelmed by Migrants

Greece is already pissing off the EU due to their inability to handle their finances---now they have 20,000 additional welfare seekers to clothe/house/feed. Does anyone else notice that it is all young men? A great con of is being perpetrated on Europe. Wait until we have the first major IS atrocity in Germany. The mood will turn VERY quickly.

GREEK ISLAND OVERWHELMED BY STRANDED MIGRANTS, DESPAIR

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-07-08-12-06

MYTILENE, Greece (AP) -- It was supposed to be the first step on their journey to Western Europe. But now thousands of migrants are mired in despair, anger and frustration on the scenic Greek island of Lesbos.

After perilous sea voyages from neighboring Turkey, they have been stranded here for days, some for nearly two weeks, running out of money and desperate to get to mainland Greece and continue their route.

The island of some 100,000 residents has been transformed by the sudden new population of some 20,000 refugees and migrants, mostly from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan - and the strain is pushing everyone to the limit.

Rest of story at above link.
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Old 7 September 2015, 12:09
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Greece is already pissing off the EU due to their inability to handle their finances---now they have 20,000 additional welfare seekers to clothe/house/feed.
20000 alone at Lesbos, Kos faces similiar problems. But, not all is lost, as they are getting shipped with ferries to mainland Greece, where most dont have any intention to seek asylum anyways. After they´ve transited Greece, mostly via Athens where they recieve temporary travel documents and are expressly forbidden from heading to the Macedonian border, as Greece keeps up the pretense that it is not encouraging illegal migration , they turn up at and pass the aforementioned border, mostly using the official train shuttle service. The same happens in Serbia and Hungary, until they finally make it to the Express to Munich, where they are happily awaited, applauded and supplied with gifts by native Germans before they get shuttled to temporary habitats. If any of you still holds a grudge against Germany because of WW II or some other socialist bullshit, watch youtube clips about refugees arriving in Munich, daily and by the hundreds, and you can rest at ease.
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20000 alone at Lesbos, Kos faces similiar problems. But, not all is lost, as they are getting shipped with ferries to mainland Greece, where most dont have any intention to seek asylum anyways. After they´ve transited Greece, mostly via Athens where they recieve temporary travel documents and are expressly forbidden from heading to the Macedonian border, as Greece keeps up the pretense that it is not encouraging illegal migration , they turn up at and pass the aforementioned border, mostly using the official train shuttle service. The same happens in Serbia and Hungary, until they finally make it to the Express to Munich, where they are happily awaited, applauded and supplied with gifts by native Germans before they get shuttled to temporary habitats. If any of you still holds a grudge against Germany because of WW II or some other socialist bullshit, watch youtube clips about refugees arriving in Munich, daily and by the hundreds, and you can rest at ease.
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Old 8 September 2015, 03:28
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Old 8 September 2015, 09:34
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this sounds like a win-win for everybody...
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Old 8 September 2015, 10:32
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So Germany is now saying they will take 500K per year for several years. Not sure I would be comfortable with millions of Syrians suddenly showing up.

Tick, tick, tick...........crickets from Saudi, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, and Bahrain. Even they do not trust their "brothers" and claim they could be terrorists. But WE are supposed to take them? Fuck that. Save a donkey, no Syrian immigration!
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Old 8 September 2015, 12:18
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...........crickets from Saudi, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, and Bahrain. Even they do not trust their "brothers" and claim they could be terrorists.
Have there been public statements to this effect by any of the above? I'm not disputing your statement, and it's not surprising to anyone that Syria's ME neighbors want nothing to do with them, but I'm curious if there are actual sources claiming a terrorist/security concern...
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Old 8 September 2015, 12:30
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Have there been public statements to this effect by any of the above? I'm not disputing your statement, and it's not surprising to anyone that Syria's ME neighbors want nothing to do with them, but I'm curious if there are actual sources claiming a terrorist/security concern...
Good point Brian. Here are a few refs.

I find it funny that in one I read this morning, a spokesman in UAE claimed they did not want refugees taking jobs away from countrymen. Umm, I don't recall seeing any UAEians working a job last time I was there, or at least anything that a refugee would qualify for.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/muslim-countries-refuse-to-take-syrian-refugees-cite-risk-of-terrorism

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3222405/How-six-wealthiest-Gulf-Nations-refused-single-Syrian-refugee.html
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Old 8 September 2015, 12:54
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If you want to make some serious coin right now, I'd recommend starting a tent rental business in Germany. Someone I know over there has such a business and is making a shitload of money setting up massive tents to house these refugees on the outskirts of cities/towns. Of course, it's all being paid for by the government.
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Old 8 September 2015, 13:46
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Tick, tick, tick...........crickets from Saudi, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, and Bahrain.
They really want to help! Riyadh has just offered to construct 200 mosques for refugees in Germany...

Ps.:The link is german only, it cites a lebanese paper in arabic, should you care.

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Old 8 September 2015, 14:51
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^^^Aww...that's so big of them. Allah would be so proud! Kinda like the passive French who built all those mil bases for Saddam, strictly for economic reasons.

It will only take a single ISIS infil to blow up some buses or preschools before the Germans say "ficken diese"!

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Friend of mine is a german army officer.
Late last week he got the word that they will have to host 800 refugees on their base starting Monday.

He told me that interestingly it is not "refugee families" as often portrayed in the media but mostly military aged males. He also said that they had to call the cops less than 12h into hosting them in a gym on their base because they were beginning to have problems of "religious nature".

It's a joke.
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So Germany is now saying they will take 500K per year for several years. Not sure I would be comfortable with millions of Syrians suddenly showing up.

Tick, tick, tick...........crickets from Saudi, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, and Bahrain. Even they do not trust their "brothers" and claim they could be terrorists. But WE are supposed to take them? Fuck that. Save a donkey, no Syrian immigration!
This whole thing reminds me of "terraforming" in the movie Aliens.

Saudi, Qatar, UAE funded mosques are like the climate reactors.

Fundamentally changing the atmosphere and environment to make it habitable for non indigenous life forms.

And I suspect what could make it even more volatile is what appears to be lopsided refugee demographics which are overrresented by military age males and underrepresented by women and children.

IF you have no choice in taking in refugees, offer them serious cash for vasectomies and tubal ligations to mitigate unintended consequences of the 2nd and 3rd order effects from the emotion based decisions.

Multi-generational, Long-game unconventional warfare.
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Friend of mine is a german army officer.
Late last week he got the word that they will have to host 800 refugees on their base starting Monday.

He told me that interestingly it is not "refugee families" as often portrayed in the media but mostly military aged males. He also said that they had to call the cops less than 12h into hosting them in a gym on their base because they were beginning to have problems of "religious nature".

It's a joke.
Sounds like Manus Island in Papua New Guinea funded by Australia.
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Old 8 September 2015, 16:21
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"It doesn't help that most of the Afghans are from their country's Shiite minority, a point several of the mainly Sunni Muslim Syrians, coming from a bloody war with sectarian overtones, bitterly mentioned."

So the ME is exporting the Sunni Shia bullshit to Europe?

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