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Old 12 June 2016, 17:18
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I just checked out the venue on google maps, it looks like a relatively small club, although maybe there were a couple of levels inside.

It was packed on a Saturday night, loud music blaring and based on some pictures that were posted it was probably pretty dark inside. Not inconceivable that in a rush to get away some people were trampled.
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Old 12 June 2016, 17:21
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Wonder what those celebrities would say about this video? How disassociated from reality can you get? Just madness.......
Great post. Thanks for the link. Absolutely insane that people STILL try to separate Islam from terrorism. Islam is Terrorism. Any denial of that fact is simply born of ignorance and political indoctrination.
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Old 12 June 2016, 17:21
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Supposedly the security inside had a weapon and fired at attacker.. No word on what happened to him etc.
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Old 12 June 2016, 17:25
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Old 12 June 2016, 17:40
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When I was running the protective services program for the dude some of you know who, I often interfaced with Orlando PD and they were top notch. The second guessing needs to stop.
I'm seeing ignorant cops doing it too on social media. If they were there they'd have done X, Y, and Z.
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Old 12 June 2016, 17:42
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Supposedly the security inside had a weapon and fired at attacker.. No word on what happened to him etc.
It was an off duty police officer doing security according to the initial reports.
There is still a lot of info yet to be released or discovered. Hopefully the initial officer was not injured if he did engage.
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:04
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I just checked out the venue on google maps, it looks like a relatively small club, although maybe there were a couple of levels inside.

It was packed on a Saturday night, loud music blaring and based on some pictures that were posted it was probably pretty dark inside. Not inconceivable that in a rush to get away some people were trampled.
Remarkable amount of victims..... and the carnage the victims lived through and the 1st responders had to manage upon arrival.
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:07
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Absolutely insane that people STILL try to separate Islam from terrorism. Islam is Terrorism. Any denial of that fact is simply born of ignorance and political indoctrination.
Yep, now we have to fight them here. Time to deport these Savages.
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:09
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Alcohol serving establishment or not...one armed citizen in the parking lot or nearby could have saved lives. But you won't be hearing this from the liberal media. It will be spun absolutely upside down.

Very tragic. RIP to the fallen and condolences to the families.
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:11
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Not to hijack, and no disrespect--but how long before Trump pounces on this with a vengeance?
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:13
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IMHO, still too many unknowns to say why they didnt do an active shooter drill.

The good part is that they have two of the best SWAT teams on the planet right there in the same county.
Absolutely. Many members of 20th Group are on both those SWAT teams, to include an SF Brigadier General who used to be 20th's commander. They are routinely trained by the ODAs from 3/20 that are on active duty for counter-drug operations. I can't think of a better element I'd want responding to this.
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:15
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Not to hijack, and no disrespect--but how long before Trump pounces on this with a vengeance?
I know it's hard to believe but he has already shown more class on this than POTUS, HRC, and Bernie. A couple tweets and radio silence, meanwhile the left is running full potato on "Guns, Guns, Guns"
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:22
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I know it's hard to believe but he has already shown more class on this than POTUS, HRC, and Bernie. A couple tweets and radio silence, meanwhile the left is running full potato on "Guns, Guns, Guns"
I concur, Fox has reported the POTUS has yet to say this was an attack of radical Islam....really. Fucking genius...

Clinton was quick to jump on the anti-gun bandwagon instead of addressing the real issue...fucking clown shoes.
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:23
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When I was running the protective services program for the dude some of you know who, I often interfaced with Orlando PD and they were top notch. The second guessing needs to stop.
Thank you. There was some strong work done by OPD and neighboring agencies this morning.
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:28
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Yep, now we have to fight them here. Time to deport these Savages.
Shooter was born in the US.
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Old 12 June 2016, 18:36
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Shooter was born in the US.
Parents were from AFG.

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Old 12 June 2016, 18:51
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Shooter was born in the US.
Evidently "birth citizenship" isn't sufficient to civilize the savage. Unsurprising, they have nothing in common with other Americans. Just foreigners who happen to reside within the borders of the US.

Actually it's pretty common for 2nd and 3rd gen foreigners to backlash/radicalize as they sacralize the 3rd world fuckery they have little/no direct experience with. The grass is always greener and all that. It's OUR fault for letting these hyenas among the sheep. Human nature is human nature; ignore it at your peril, as shown here, again. Obviously, that "watch list" accomplished fuck all, with the Feds getting to play voyeur and document the slaughter.

As to Trump and other right wingers being radio quiet; they've no need to get loud, the facts speak plainly (in spite of all the shitlibs are doing to obfuscate)

It's the shitlib vermin who must obfuscate, lie and lie some more to recreate the facts into something else. I can almost forgive the homos and other mental weaklings who are trying to rationalize away the hatred of their identity. Almost. Weakness attracts abuse from thugs, as we can see here, again. Code Pink and the other homo advocate groups should go hard on stopping then reversing Islamic invasion of the west. It really is a survival effort for them, as demonstrated, again.

As to the SWAT/police effort: just shows that even with literal world class efforts/orgs, every individual is still on his own for his own safety and that of his loved ones.

All in all, just more data to reinforce what even half honest, slightly intelligent people already know. It's the honesty that's the key thing. It doesn't take much brainpower to analyse facts if you don't have insane and deceptive preconceptions trying to convince you to disbelieve your lying eyes. That's the core problem; having to mentally overcome all this shit lib indoctrination of self destructive blindness. S/F.....Ken M
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Old 12 June 2016, 19:01
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Not to hijack, and no disrespect--but how long before Trump pounces on this with a vengeance?
He's been intermixing reminders that "he was right" with less than usual bombastic statements about what happened.
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Old 12 June 2016, 19:04
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I'll bet the Army Reserve Major who threw a packet of bacon on the Raeford Mosques front steps and brandished a pistol, threatened the occupants and was arrested the other day is bouncing off the walls of his Ft. Bragg confinement cell going "I fucken told yooooou!"
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Old 12 June 2016, 19:16
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The talking points are "this is the deadliest mass shooting in US history" and that is being hammered home in the news. FYI, they do mention terrorism but is more of a secondary thought. Forgive me if I don't share their view, this is the deadliest terrorist attack since 9/11. The tools used should not even be a major point of discussion.
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