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Old 21 October 2016, 12:43
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Huxley and Orwell

A letter has come to light from Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World, to his former student, George Orwell, author of 1984. If you look at modern America and see the growing power and influence of the NSA, the uniparty control of government and media, the legalization of drugs, the mass medication of students, the normalization of abortion, etc. I find it hard to argue with Huxley's opinion. I've posted the text of his letter below so you can judge for yourself.


Wrightwood. California.
21 October, 1949

Dear Mr. Orwell,

It was very kind of you to tell your publishers to send me a copy of your book.

It arrived as I was in the midst of a piece of work that required much reading and consulting of references; and since poor sight makes it necessary for me to ration my reading, I had to wait a long time before being able to embark on Nineteen Eighty-Four.

Agreeing with all that the critics have written of it, I need not tell you, yet once more, how fine and how profoundly important the book is.

May I speak instead of the thing with which the book deals the ultimate revolution?

The first hints of a philosophy of the ultimate revolution the revolution which lies beyond politics and economics, and which aims at total subversion of the individual's psychology and physiology are to be found in the Marquis de Sade, who regarded himself as the continuator, the consummator, of Robespierre and Babeuf.

The philosophy of the ruling minority in Nineteen Eighty-Four is a sadism which has been carried to its logical conclusion by going beyond sex and denying it.

Whether in actual fact the policy of the boot-on-the-face can go on indefinitely seems doubtful.

My own belief is that the ruling oligarchy will find less arduous and wasteful ways of governing and of satisfying its lust for power, and these ways will resemble those which I described in Brave New World.

I have had occasion recently to look into the history of animal magnetism and hypnotism, and have been greatly struck by the way in which, for a hundred and fifty years, the world has refused to take serious cognizance of the discoveries of Mesmer, Braid, Esdaile, and the rest.

Partly because of the prevailing materialism and partly because of prevailing respectability, nineteenth-century philosophers
and men of science were not willing to investigate the odder facts of psychology for practical men, such as politicians, soldiers and policemen, to apply in the field of government.

Thanks to the voluntary ignorance of our fathers, the advent of the ultimate revolution was delayed for five or six generations.

Another lucky accident was Freud's inability to hypnotize successfully and his consequent disparagement of hypnotism.

This delayed the general application of hypnotism to psychiatry for at least forty years.

But now psycho-analysis is being combined with hypnosis; and hypnosis has been made easy and indefinitely extensible through the use of barbiturates, which induce a hypnoid and suggestible state in even the most recalcitrant subjects.

Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience.

In other words, I feel that the nightmare of Nineteen Eighty-Four is destined to modulate into the nightmare of a world having more resemblance to that which I imagined in Brave New World.

The change will be brought about as a result of a felt need for increased efficiency.

Meanwhile, of course, there may be a large scale biological and atomic war in which case we shall have nightmares of other and scarcely imaginable kinds.

Thank you once again for the book.

Yours sincerely,

Aldous Huxley
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Old 21 October 2016, 13:02
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Well then, it appears that someone has taken this as a blueprint, and many of these things are occurring as we speak.


Very disconcerting, I just referenced Yuri Bezemov, a KGB defector that outlined the plan for changing America from the inside.
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...that could never happen in America. we are too smart to fall for such chicanery
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In Myanmar, Orwell is known as "The Prophet".
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Whether in actual fact the policy of the boot-on-the-face can go on indefinitely seems doubtful.
I disagree with this.

Huxley has it right for the most part: the ultimate revolution is the total subversion of the individual psychology and physiology.

It is stripping away the importance of the individual and replacing with the will of the collective. Majority makes might.

The proponents of this are the enemy to individual freedoms and rights.

The enemy applies gentle pressure, like the slow boil of the frog, and the masses rile not.
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Old 22 October 2016, 07:39
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...that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience.
Jedi mind trick on an institutional scale. Makes me think of the SJWs.
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I disagree with this.

Huxley has it right for the most part: the ultimate revolution is the total subversion of the individual psychology and physiology.

It is stripping away the importance of the individual and replacing with the will of the collective. Majority makes might.

The proponents of this are the enemy to individual freedoms and rights.

The enemy applies gentle pressure, like the slow boil of the frog, and the masses rile not.
I see it as two sides of the same coin. The masses learn to love their slavery. The few who would be free will face intense social pressure to conform, which is enough to keep most in line. The very few hard cases will get the boot to the face, and the sheeple will thank Big Brother for doing it.
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