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Old 16 March 2017, 00:11
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Go Fund Me "Female Marines United" all donations going to "headstrong"?

Whomever started this campaign works at the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, I couldn't read her plight anymore after that.
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Old 18 March 2017, 14:10
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This just gets better every day!

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Old 18 March 2017, 16:05
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I'm missing how you are interpreting this?
The .mil will pay to have your penis removed so you can be a girl and punish those that insist you are a boy. Apparently you just aren't allowed to show off your new giney on facebook.
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Old 18 March 2017, 16:20
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We now have gay servicemen and women openly married. I have two that I know of in my unit. Both male and female. I guess my point is that some folks seem to Pooh Pooh this because the "victims" are women, as if that is ok...which is why I was putting forth an "alternative" paradigm. What if you (a generalized you- directed to the male populace) learned there was a widespread sharing of naked photos of you and some of your teammates on a website akin to this? Photos that you did not willingly offer up...maybe taken surreptitiously and unknowingly. Would you feel humiliated, betrayed...would it affect your team cohesion, your morale, etc? Would it detract from the unit's effectiveness perhaps, and lessen trust?
Most of us have the benefit of some sort of process to weed out such a team member.

People pooh pooh because they get everything shy of infosuppositories that women are the same as men and that women can be men and that women can do whatever a man can do. Now when shit like this happens, all of a sudden everyone wants to be a girl again. You (Collective you) can't have it both ways. That hag senator that melted down in front of the CMC bitched and wined and moaned about sexual this and that for female marines. He should have told her "I only have enlisted and officer marines."

I am not saying what happened is right or should be condoned, only that it should not be any different than if it were all males. (Other than a new folder on gavin's iPUD)

It just proves that when it all comes down to reality, this gender neutrality is all bullshit. Would you be this vocal if it were all male marines? Probably not and I would be 100% ok with that decision.
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Old 18 March 2017, 16:51
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If by "better" you mean ridiculous, then yeah, I see your point. If the "victims" are going to claim that they thought that taking the nude selfies would remain private, than can't the "accused" claim that they thought their comments would remain private as well? I'm not talking about the assclown's advocating violence, they need to get hammered, but what about LCpl Smuckatelli who may have commented, "Hey I know that chick, she's got a nice rack."
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Old 18 March 2017, 17:36
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The .mil will pay to have your penis removed so you can be a girl and punish those that insist you are a boy. Apparently you just aren't allowed to show off your new giney on facebook.
Ah...I guess I don't equate the two...what I mean by that is the gist of the issue is someone else putting pix of "your new giney" on the web against your will or knowledge.
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Old 18 March 2017, 19:16
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Ah...I guess I don't equate the two...what I mean by that is the gist of the issue is someone else putting pix of "your new giney" on the web against your will or knowledge.
They should have never taken the photos. If they had better judgement they would not have been able to post them regardless of giving permission or not. Just bad decision making process.

I do mot condone what happened but people today just shoot them selfs in the foot.
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Old 18 March 2017, 20:31
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Ah...I guess I don't equate the two...what I mean by that is the gist of the issue is someone else putting pix of "your new giney" on the web against your will or knowledge.
My sarcasm isn't pointed at you, my apologies. My point is that all of this sexuality awareness has been shoved down everyone's throat. Who can pee where and what you can call him or her. Now they are pissed at some nude photos? What did they think was gonna happen?

They think that just because they send it on DoD letterhead that it shouldn't offend anyone's moral compass and that they can just draw a jagged line in the sand and determine morally right from morally wrong in support of their political agenda.
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Old 18 March 2017, 21:54
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I can no longer identify military "morality" unless it is tied to annual training
...so, what measuring stick are we using for morality this weeK?
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Old 19 March 2017, 06:54
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My sarcasm isn't pointed at you, my apologies. My point is that all of this sexuality awareness has been shoved down everyone's throat. Who can pee where and what you can call him or her. Now they are pissed at some nude photos? What did they think was gonna happen?

They think that just because they send it on DoD letterhead that it shouldn't offend anyone's moral compass and that they can just draw a jagged line in the sand and determine morally right from morally wrong in support of their political agenda.
Exactly. A series of bad decisions.
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Old 19 March 2017, 08:08
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They should have never taken the photos. If they had better judgement they would not have been able to post them regardless of giving permission or not. Just bad decision making process.

I do mot condone what happened but people today just shoot them selfs in the foot.
I agree. Never allow nude pix. But apparently some of these assclowns also took surreptitious photos of women.
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My sarcasm isn't pointed at you, my apologies. My point is that all of this sexuality awareness has been shoved down everyone's throat. Who can pee where and what you can call him or her. Now they are pissed at some nude photos? What did they think was gonna happen?

They think that just because they send it on DoD letterhead that it shouldn't offend anyone's moral compass and that they can just draw a jagged line in the sand and determine morally right from morally wrong in support of their political agenda.
All the sexual identity nonsense is demoralizing. I wonder what will happen under Mattis.
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Old 21 March 2017, 07:23
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The "scandal" aside, there's a certain irony seeing Neller get treated like a punk by a politician.
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Old 21 March 2017, 08:34
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Just received this from Big Army:

As Soldiers, it is our solemn duty to conduct ourselves in an appropriate and professional manner in everything we do and at all times. This includes our conduct online and in social media. We are Soldiers 24/7 -- on duty, off duty, in uniform and out of uniform. We are a values-based organization in which everyone is expected to be treated with dignity and respect. The Army recently released ALARACT 014/2017-Professionalization of Online Conduct. The document defines online misconduct as “the use of electronic communication to inflict harm” that include, but is not limited to “harassment, bullying, hazing, stalking, discrimination, retaliation, or any other types of misconduct that undermine dignity and respect.”

Appropriate online conduct is simply stated as communication consistent with Army Values and standards of conduct. Those who participate in or condone misconduct online are subject to criminal, disciplinary and administrative action under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

This is not a new standard, but it is something that I believe some of us may have forgotten. This is unacceptable, and it is a detriment to unit cohesion and readiness. The bottom line here is that if you would not say or do it in uniform, don’t say or do it online.

Our professionalism directly impacts the perception of our force and our ability to retain and recruit. More importantly, it impacts the trust we have with the American people. We owe the American people a professional fighting force with members who treat others with dignity and respect.

Please read the ALARACT thoroughly and discuss with each and every Soldier in your formations. Enforce the standards that we hold so dear, and do not let the actions of a few tarnish the face of our Army.

I challenge each and every Soldier, Family member, and Army Civilian to do the right thing at all times.

Conduct yourselves professionally in all forums and facets of life. Stress this to your Soldiers: If you are a victim of misconduct, inform your chain of command and contact your local SHARP Representative and Victim Advocate. If you are aware of misconduct, do your job as a Soldier and report it.

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Old 21 March 2017, 09:19
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Once again proof that every rule, even the most common sense ones, are the result of some dumb ass.
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Old 21 March 2017, 09:20
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Old 21 March 2017, 09:23
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It's a good time to be retired.
Damn straight. Or maybe should I say "damn gender-neutral"...
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Old 21 March 2017, 10:13
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Old 21 March 2017, 10:22
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There should be a regulation or policy that directs troops to follow regulations.
...that would solve everything.
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Old 21 March 2017, 11:20
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Thousands of years of men being soldiers and acting like soldiers and somehow we think that we can change that.

As I have noted before, shit like this has been going on for many many years within the military. It is part of the culture required for very young testosterone-fueled men to close with the enemy on a personal level, at bayonet distance, to fight and win wars. The only difference today is that social media is revealing to the public what our military has been like since we have had a military.

It's the scorpion and the frog story, writ large.

You don't get respect because an ALARACT says so. You earn it. Or you don't. You don't give dignity to someone. Each person is responsible for their own. It is your choice to have dignity, or not.
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