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Old 21 November 2004, 13:26
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New Grenada Raider Thread

Since that other thread was getting a little long in the tooth, I figured I'd start another. Hopefully when bk1133 gets back from the sandbox, he can get with magician and Kurt and we can get the Grand Anse insert story squared away.
I want to post some more pics as well. I hope Jim Hicks, Joe N, rgrjn, Dave, BackintheDay, jds, oldrgr and rgrgordo can chime in on a few of these as well. Sorry if I missed anyone. I know there's more of you FOG's out there! :-)
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Old 21 November 2004, 13:30
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Richmond Hill Prison

Here's a pic of Richmond Hill Prison. The Prison was the target for Delta in the early hours of 25 Oct 83. Prison is off on the lower left of the picture.
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Old 21 November 2004, 13:42
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Salines DZ

Salines DZ with troops and C141 coming in.

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Old 21 November 2004, 13:49
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ZU-23 at Salines

Ok, I know this ZU-23 was at Salines, here's my question. Does anyone recognize where this puppy was exactly? From everything I read, I'm thinking it might have been near the Cuban Camp (judging by the construction materials around it). Can anyone shed some light?
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Old 21 November 2004, 13:53
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For Dave

Ok, this one's for Dave. Three guesses as to who that Ranger is walking towards the camera?
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Old 21 November 2004, 15:39
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Re: ZU-23 at Salines

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Ok, I know this ZU-23 was at Salines, here's my question. Does anyone recognize where this puppy was exactly? From everything I read, I'm thinking it might have been near the Cuban Camp (judging by the construction materials around it). Can anyone shed some light?
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There were 3 or 4 on top of the hill just over looking the end of the runway.. I cant quite make out the exact hill from the pic of the airfield..just top right end of runway.. I cant see the pic that well.. got a pic of the map?? then I can ID the hill..

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Old 21 November 2004, 17:38
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I just picked up a new book called "Leave No Man Behind " about operations involving rescues and liberation. There's a chapter devoted to Urgent Fury. A lot of it goes into the background information as far as why there was such a need for SOCOM and the command structure at the time. The best part about it was that it did a good job (from my perspective) of breaking down what exactly happened in chronological order. I have some question as to the accuracies, so if anyone who was actually there has read it, I'd be interested in your thoughts. Another thing that was very helpful were several maps of various AO's, including a map of the Grand Anse raid broken down by which company was responsible for which area. It didn't touch much on Calivgny. The more I read on here and Magician's blogger about UF, the more I realize there is to learn.

This is definitely a story that needs to be told.
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Old 21 November 2004, 19:00
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I cant see the pic that well.. got a pic of the map?? then I can ID the hill..
Joe,
I sent a good scan of a Salines map to your email account.


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Another thing that was very helpful were several maps of various AO's, including a map of the Grand Anse raid broken down by which company was responsible for which area.
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Thanks for the heads up on the book. I just ordered a copy.


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Old 21 November 2004, 19:08
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Happy to help. Please let me know your take on the accuracies of the book.

If you guys ever collaborate on a book, I'll be the first in line.
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Old 22 November 2004, 01:14
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Keep them Comming

OK Old Guys,

Keep those stories coming, because by my calculations, Grenada was 21 year ago, the average age of Battalion dudes being 18-22, and that would make your old Asses over 40. Meaning you guys don't have much memory left before you start forgetting. So keep the damn stories coming before your history is lost forever. These Grenada threads have been badass. We all heard rumors about my old squad leaders PSG was in Grenada...yada yada yada. Its good to hear real life accounts of what happened. Anybody got a story about the RSOV's that were "ambushed". I have head stories, but they were never confirmed or denied. Keep them coming.

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Old 22 November 2004, 02:04
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You should check out magicians blog . He has a ton of his own accounts about UF. If you've ever read any of his posts, then you know what an outstanding writer he is.

Magician, saw you post this on here earlier, hope you don't mind me posting it again.

One thing I definitely realized from reading his blog: There was a LOT of fucking talent in those Battalions. Reading some of the names of who was in his platoon and company was like a who's who of Ranger legends. I'm sure the same can be said of all the Ranger Companies involved. The more I read about it, the more I realize the travesty that this story has never truly been captured.

To all the UF vets out there: Thank you for Leading the Way.
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Old 22 November 2004, 04:39
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got that right.

look at Abizaid, for example. He was a company commander in 1/75.

there are other examples.

even Kearney, who I pretty much excoriate in my account, commanded TF121 in Iraq. While I still have my doubts about the man, and feel that I am entitled to my opinions, others who are equally entitled to their own opinions, obviously feel that he is a great commander. Regardless, it is possible to cite him as an example of a man who rose above ignominy and seized valor deep from within himself. Perhaps.

Tony Thomas, who was a cherry LT in Grenada, ended up commanding 3d Battalion in stellar fashion, and established an enviable reputation at CAG. Last I heard, he was still doing Good Works at JSOC.

LTC Chinn, who was a Weapons PLT leader, is now commanding the Ranger Training Brigade, I believe.

the examples just go on, and on, and on.

the one that speaks loudest for me, personally, is the example of Greg Birch, who for me, will always remain "Sergeant Fucking Birch," the man who taught me marksmanship with Bonehead Beater in hand, and who threw my bed out of my window when it was not made to standard.

Birch was, and may still be (not sure), Regimental Sergeant Major.

a more bad-assed Ranger never walked the earth.

if you have never met him, you have to make it a point.

mooch...you are truly doing God's work, brother.

these are phenomenal photographs.
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Old 22 November 2004, 11:33
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Re: Keep them Comming

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OK Old Guys,

by my calculations, Grenada was 21 year ago, the average age of Battalion dudes being 18-22, and that would make your old Asses over 40. Meaning you guys don't have much memory left before you start forgetting.

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Old 22 November 2004, 12:15
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Damn that makes me feel old, fuck you very much
Just do'n my job.....Keep'n ya down. :D

Thanks Bslayer for the link.

Magician is an awesome writer, shit, when I read his posts, my IQ drops...

Magician, have you ever considered writing a book about your experiences. If not, you should.
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Old 22 November 2004, 18:18
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For Dave

Dave,
You didn't answer the question regarding the picture.
Who's that Ranger striding towards the camera?
It's 3rd Platoon, B/1/75's sector on Salines.
You can't see it in that pic but there's an American flag just to the Rangers left.
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Old 22 November 2004, 21:00
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by magician
Tony Thomas, who was a cherry LT in Grenada, ended up commanding 3d Battalion in stellar fashion, and established an enviable reputation at CAG. Last I heard, he was still doing Good Works at JSOC.

Thomas actually commaded 1st Batt. He was A Co. CO at 3rd when he was a CPT.


Birch was, and may still be (not sure), Regimental Sergeant Major.


Correct. Greg Birch is still RSM.
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Chinn was CO of Aco when I left.

I think that ZU-23 rests in front of 1/75 HQ now :)
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Old 22 November 2004, 23:28
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Charlie,
You mean this one? :D
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PS I'm glad everyone digs these Grenada threads. When I joined the Corps most of my DI's and small unit leadership were vets of either Beirut, Grenada, Panama, etc.
There was/is a ton of great information and history that needs to be passed on to the future warfighters. I figured this would be a great way to do it. If there are objections from the mods, hit me with a PM.
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Old 22 November 2004, 23:32
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Forgot to attach the damn pic.
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That's it.
Well they added the curbs since my time..

I dig this stuff
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