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Old 6 December 2009, 16:10
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I don't believe we have the contract as of yet. From what I've been told we're just recruiting for it right now. Gathering resumes so when we have to hire the necessary people we have a group of candidates to choose from.

As far as I know we're still in negotiations.
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I don't believe we have the contract as of yet. From what I've been told we're just recruiting for it right now. Gathering resumes so when we have to hire the necessary people we have a group of candidates to choose from.

As far as I know we're still in negotiations.
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Old 6 December 2009, 23:55
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JDWRep,
I have some questions for you.

How old is this company? I did a D&B check and it appears to be fairly new and also shows a few other interesting links. Website registration and ownership appear to support this as well.

Why on a site populated by 1000's of former SOF and LEO's does no one know anything about the company if they are "one of the leading".....?

Is the company using submitted resumes to put against the bid or does the company already have it's bid submitted? or are you/the company suggesting this is a sole source solicitation and you aren't bidding only negotiating for the project?

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Old 7 December 2009, 00:16
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Silverbullet,

1. The company was formed in 2006 originally to provide executive protection for celebrities and corporate executives. In 2007 it became a government contractor.

2. Well I think it's important to stress that yes, this site does have 1000s of former SOF and LEO, but not everyone who's a member has responded. I would venture to guess that a good many have heard of our firm based on the number of resumes we receive from former SOF and LEO on a daily basis. One thing to remember is that Jax Desmond Worldwide doesn't provide these types of services as discussed on here on a daily basis. The majority of the work we do day-to-day is assessments and analysis for corporations. Something that doesn't get a lot of publicity on a site like this.

This particular operation is requiring a lot more out of us and pushing us to our limits. We have the people and resources in place to successfully complete it but it's not something we're well known for. We are one of the world's leading risk management firms... not PMCs. We're not the size of Blackwater, Aegis or Triple Canopy and the work we do is quite different.

However, for the type of services we provide we are in the lead. At least I think so.

3. This is a sole source solicitation from what I know. There was no invitation to bid, we simply saw a need for outsourcing and made an offer. After the offer was made we were asked to submit a proposal. That proposal has been submitted, was reviewed and is now being discussed. We have high expectations based on intel we've received that we will be successful in obtaining this contract.

We're working closely with a variety of SOF individuals from Israel and have a solid group of US personnel as well. The 115 that we seek is to complement that team.

I hope that answers your questions, let me know if you have more.
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We are one of the world's leading risk management firms...
I still think it's bold to put yourself on par and equivalence with Pinkerton C and I, Kroll, Control Risks, ArmorGroup, WSI, and similar firms. I strongly doubt revenue, resources, and support rival those firms. There's nothing wrong with being a start-up or proud of what you have, but repeated statements to that degree make me suspicious.
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Old 7 December 2009, 01:59
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I can agree with that. I didn't write the website and I'm not a manager or partner with the firm but I think you have a point.

I will say that I think we offer something they don't and I think that the work we put into our assignments makes us a leader in the industry. I know that our success rate with our clients is fantastic and I think that we probably provide a better service then most if not all of our competitors. (my opinion)

But as I said, I see your point, but I don't think that calling ourselves leaders in the industry is fraudulent or even unethical.

Let me ask you a question... when was the last time you looked at a website for a company big or small and they said "we're average at what we do" or "we're not as good as ABC co but we try our best".

It's marketing plain and simple, we all know this, but I think in this industry sometimes people think that PMCs shouldn't be marketing themselves. In the end its a business and we have to make money. Marketing then becomes an essential practice.

Regardless of how big or small we are in the industry, we have a good rap. We've never been accused of killing innocent civilians, we've never been in front of a tribunal for war crimes, we've never had someone accuse our people of rape and we've never had a country kick us out for repeated offenses.

Just because some people haven't heard of us before doesn't make us new, it doesnt make the company inadequate. I'd go on record and put my job on it to say that we have better people than any other company out there. I think our people are what seperates us from the rest. And we do have a number of resources I don't think many other companies have.

Once again just my opinion but I do appreciate your point.
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Old 7 December 2009, 02:58
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Another point I would like to make is this Mexico project, nicknamed "Operation Duvdevan" by Mr. Desmond.

This is the first of its kind for the company from what I know. It's the largest contract that we've ever gone after so it's somewhat new water for us. We have employed some of the best people available for it and overall the attitude is that we can complete the job successfully.
Because it's a "cherry" operation (ie: brand new), because the job entails doing undercover operations, or because it sounds like a really neat-o Israeli Special Operations name?

I'm just asking why he would name it that. For me, it goes to mindset of the company president.
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Old 7 December 2009, 03:07
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I had to ask a friend about this. From what he tells me we were asked by a reporter for a name of an operation. The name Operation Duvdevan does stem from the Israeli unit. It was chosen because the director of this operation is a former member of Duvdevan and because the majority of our management for this operation is from Duvdevan or Sayeret Matkal. It was also chosen because of the way that Israeli SOF operates.
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Old 7 December 2009, 08:32
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When "operatives" is used then followed by- Protective Security Specialist, Designated Defensive Marksman, Rotary Wing Pilots, Paramedics, Fixed Site Security, Operation Managers, Shift Supervisors, Canine Handlers, CIVPOL Officers-

just wondering what this company's expertise with aviation support or operations is?
being in aviation we see alot of companies that pass themselves as "operators" - can't find you in the FAA database or the customer looking for you to fly their aircraft?
may want to re-think it and subcontract an operator.
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Silverbullet,

1. The company was formed in 2006 originally to provide executive protection for celebrities and corporate executives. In 2007 it became a government contractor.

2. Well I think it's important to stress that yes, this site does have 1000s of former SOF and LEO, but not everyone who's a member has responded. I would venture to guess that a good many have heard of our firm based on the number of resumes we receive from former SOF and LEO on a daily basis. One thing to remember is that Jax Desmond Worldwide doesn't provide these types of services as discussed on here on a daily basis. The majority of the work we do day-to-day is assessments and analysis for corporations. Something that doesn't get a lot of publicity on a site like this.

This particular operation is requiring a lot more out of us and pushing us to our limits. We have the people and resources in place to successfully complete it but it's not something we're well known for. We are one of the world's leading risk management firms... not PMCs. We're not the size of Blackwater, Aegis or Triple Canopy and the work we do is quite different.


I appreciate your response but:

Becoming a gov't contractor is another vague term. What gov't contract? There appears to be zero "gov't contracts" awarded to your company.

Secondly, you and your company need to understand this point-while every member of this site hasn't responded I can assure you with 100% certainty that we get information from every corner of the world. Not every member is going to respond publically, but if there is even one member who has heard of or worked for your company we would know by now.

The depth of our ability to get any and all info on any subj and any company can not be matched.

If your company is what the website and their email solicitation states they are we would know and your corporate HQ's wouldn't be sending out the stupid threatening email.

IMO, I see a company who is barely 3 years old claiming to work in austere places, needs "operatives" and basically fishing for resumes.

I agree with you 100% that this Mexico thing is beyond anything JDW has ever tried. If fact, IMO the company has no work history that shows they are capable of conducting this type of project even if it does ever turn into something real.

I wish them luck and suggest they may want to change their attitude and realize that points made in this thread, if applied, would probably help them in the long run.
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Old 7 December 2009, 11:15
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JDWRep,

I am not a regular poster but visit this forum often because the information here is invaluable for some of us trying to make a living post active duty. Two issues compel me to comment. Let me get to the point.

Issue 1, companies using my hard earned experience with proposals to obtain contracts for profit and not offering me the job to share in that profit, or sustituting me with a TCN just to pay him less. When I give you my resume it is only to assess, vet, and to select or not select me. Why should I assist a company for gain when I receive nothing in return? I'm a victim of this. I don't like it and it is hard to prove. Resume databases are obviously very important and prospective candidates and the company are in it together when a resume accompanies a proposal. I'm not accusing your company of doing this but it has happened.

Issue 2, any experienced "operator", as the term gets used, will tell you that at age 37 and well beyond you are in your prime. I am not bashing the CEOs policy. When you own or are in charge of a company your the king, but the policy will eliminate individuals with the desired skills and experience and build resentment from otherwise qualified people.

I too am always interested in work in Latin American countries. I have extensive time and experience there and prefer it to the Middle East. For now I'll keep my resume because I'm too old and I wish you and your company the best of luck.

Si en un futuro, usted tiene un trabajo en Colombia, Mexico, o cualquier lugar al Sur para nosotros los mayores yo le enviare mi hoja de vida!
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Old 7 December 2009, 15:19
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If you read the spanish newspaper article, it's an interview of someone from the company. Basically a sales pitch. In the interview he claims to have access to "Apache helicopters", and even "artillery",.....Hmmmmm, he also claims to be able to "call upon the U.S. military in a jam". My goodness, I'm buying property in Mexico since it's obvious that the narco-problems will be coming to an end down there soon.....
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FYI

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache...&client=safari

I guess someone forgot that the internet lives forever when they deleted the wiki page.

Check this picture out.

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Now compare it to the picture of the 2 chicks sitting at the table with him that accompany the interview below. Nice staff.

http://the-red-couch.blogspot.com/20...x-desmond.html

That's a professional group.....Notice the use of the vague term "gov't contractor" again. LOL
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Thanks, Silverbullet. I needed a good laugh and this certainly provided it.

I love the `anonymous' comments about how gorgeous he is, what a good man he is, how you wouldn't want to mess with him, blah blah blah. Bet it's one ISP address and it goes to the basement of Jax Desmond's mom and dad's bungalow.

Good times. Thanks again.
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From the Link SB Provided In 2006 I graduated with a diploma in Israeli Counter Terrorism and since then have completed multiple certifications in the fields of close protection and tactical medicine.
Who wouldn't want to work for this guy?
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lol, the long arm of SOCNET....this place never ceases to amaze me
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Old 7 December 2009, 19:19
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I'm impressed! Knowing what we trained the Mexicans at Bragg and knowing that some have migrated to the Zetas, that is exactly what anyone would want backing this type of project up from Canada. Good God Almighty! Lets just go to their back yard and put them out of business. It's that easy with no host nation and USG support while local corrupt actors hinder you in every way possible. Sign me up, I love a challenge!
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no host nation or USG support while local corrupt actors hinder you in every way possible
That's "the way that Israeli SOF operates."

Is that your shoe phone ringing Jax? Must be Vanity Fair.
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Old 7 December 2009, 20:39
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I can't take credit for it except the pic with the 2 chicks.

The rest came in from an overseas member.

A bunch of stuff has come into my inbox but I haven't had the time to sort through all of it.
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Here's the threat. The "govern yourself....." part is classic.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _____________________________

Jax Desmond Worldwide takes very seriously the allegations made public on this website today. We have worked very hard to develop a positive reputation within the risk management industry and find these allegations to be insulting and unwarranted.

We are committed to providing our clients with exceptional levels of service, at reasonable prices and provided by the most experienced and qualified professionals. This is our highest priority.

Jax Desmond Worldwide is committed to serving its clients to the highest professional and ethical standards as demonstrated since its incorporation in 2006.

Jax Desmond Worldwide is a global risk management firm with annual revenues exceeding $100 million. It has been named as one of the world's leading risk management and protective services firms by numerous media outlets, and is a vendor to four governments and an excess of fifty private clients. More than 500 employees provide analysis, advice, and turn-key solutions to clients that have included some of the world's most recognizable individuals and organizations. Our office is located in the Trump Building on Wall Street in New York City and our corporate profile can be viewed on our website at www.jaxdesmond.com.

We hereby respectfully request that this thread be closed for discussion and deleted from your servers, and that any questions or concerns regarding our legitimacy within the risk management and security industries be directed to our public relations department by email at pr@jaxdesmond.com.

The comments made on this website are nothing more than personal opinions with no evidence to support them. Our legal department has determined these comments to be slanderous and defamatory and will take the necessary steps to ensure the protection of our reputation on the world wide web and within the military and intelligence communities.

Govern yourself accordingly.

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