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Old 9 December 2009, 00:59
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Now it all make sense, it must be Sacha Baron Cohen using is cover name Sascha Forst so it does not conflict with his other day job in Sayeret Matkal
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Old 9 December 2009, 01:10
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JDW,
What is with all the Virtual Offices and Mail Box drops for Jax Desmond Worldwide another address for them in New York 1461 First Avenue, Suite 360 New York, NY 10075 still with the same number going to Chicago. Strange for a World Leader in Threat Management.
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Old 9 December 2009, 01:14
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There's a bunch of them. They also have actual offices but those aren't advertised. In fact it's part of the employment contract that you can't disclose where the actual offices are. They claim its for opsec. I worked out of one in NYC. I also have visited others in Atlanta, Los Angeles, Toronto, Chicago, Dallas, Sydney and London. I don't know how many more there are. I know for every actual office they have there are at least one or two virtual offices or po boxes and I know that they pay a lot of money for them because they have certain requirements.

I don't know why that is though.
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Old 9 December 2009, 03:42
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There's a bunch of them. I don't know why that is though.
It's so no one can track them down and out them the way SOCNET just did. So much for that plan....

Or just to create the illusion that the word "Worldwide" is justified.....it sounds so much better than "douchebaggery on five continents"

I'm sure all their other concepts are equally well thought out.....

1) OK, what should we call our company.....something that sounds like a comic book character name or a low rent porn star would be good.....

2) Let's throw the Israeli SOF card, no one has ever done that before, and I read a book about them last week, they have the best pistol technique in the world.....

And so forth.....
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Old 9 December 2009, 03:52
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As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.
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Old 9 December 2009, 08:15
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As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.
HMMMM interesting, I am calling BS on that one JDW. You came on a little strong there. Feel free to PM with some detail on the "enormous reach" because it sounds like you are actually doing some spin control on behalf of the company.
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Old 9 December 2009, 08:23
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As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.
Funny. Their reach apparently isn't sufficient to keep their wikipedia page from getting deleted last year for lack of noteworthiness...

Here are the seemingly desperate arguments to get the Wikipedia page reinstated: http://www.medbib.com/Wikipedia:Arti...mond_Worldwide

The only arguments offered by the staunch defenders of Jax Desmond to meet Wikipedia's noteworthy bar where that 1) it was a Canadian company in "a sea of American companies" and 2) a single mention in that Indian newspaper article. Wikipedia didnt seem to think that either was sufficiently noteworthy. One editor towards the end of the link even suggests that the page might be a hoax. Keep in mind that Wikipedia editors aren't even in the security industry.

Have these guys been awarded a single gov contract? Search for the company with a "-zetas -hatten" modifier in google and you dont get much beyond employment solicitations...given that they've noted in this thread that they fish for resumes, the solicitations aren't worth beans.

On a side note, I do like the "Bodyguard, Military Contractor, Investigator, Consultant, philanthropist" angle for the deleted page....I need to get those added to my business cards along with "Tamer of Tigers, Virgins Deflowered, Revolutions Started, Rebellions Quelled, Bar Fights Ended"
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Old 9 December 2009, 09:26
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As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.
Look man, I feel for you if they truly fired you, but you're reaching and the info that was provided to me is not true. I'm beginning to doubt the fired part as well.

You may believe it and Jax Desmond may have tried to encourage this belief and aura around the workplace but they aren't a black cut out for any gov't agency, they aren't tied into DOD or anything close.

Their behavior, email, web presence and especially the PR person who IMO is a complete dumb ass wouldn't have reacted to anything posted on the web.

Just look at the promotional video they put together. It's laughable.

Using and holding off shore accounts doesn't make you dangerous or part of a black unit.

To the inexperienced this may smack of them being real players but a few simple scratches of the surface revealed something entirely different.

As far as having something to fear, that's laughable.
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Old 9 December 2009, 09:29
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HMMMM interesting, I am calling BS on that one JDW. You came on a little strong there. Feel free to PM with some detail on the "enormous reach" because it sounds like you are actually doing some spin control on behalf of the company.
His PM will be the same dumb one he sent me. Your last sentence is why I didn't give him an email. We had a dude try to register yesterday with his exact same IP address but claiming to be in Montana.

These people aren't as smart as they think they are.

We presently have many researchers looking into them and their claims.
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Old 9 December 2009, 09:37
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2) Let's throw the Israeli SOF card, no one has ever done that before, and I read a book about them last week, they have the best pistol technique in the world.....
We are checking that out as well, both in Israel and with someone in the US they claim association with.

So far no positive info has returned.
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Old 9 December 2009, 10:37
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I found his interview on 'The Red Couch' interesting, especially the quote "In 2006 I graduated with a diploma in Israeli Counter Terrorism",......Which 'school' did he attend, 'Menachem's Lox & Bagel Shop, and Night-School of Counter-Terrorism'.......It would be interesting to find out where and from whom he actually obtained his 'diploma'. My suspicion is the 'School of Photoshop' is where the diploma came from. Or perhaps it was a correspondence course offered on the back of a matchbook cover ?
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Old 9 December 2009, 11:55
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I am sitting in my CHU reading this and I have to say thank You Jax Desmond because I am laughing my ass off. I have never gotten how a person puts so much work into a facade, when they could take that energy and actually make a living at it. Dude, You should write comedy, You're good at it.
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Old 9 December 2009, 13:24
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This is'nt some fly by night organization.
Yes it is.

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The company's reach is enormous.
No it's not.

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Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.
Yeah.

They will send this guy after you.......

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Old 9 December 2009, 14:04
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Old 9 December 2009, 19:16
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I lived in New York City for 6 years, and unless things have changed (815) is not a New York area code. When I left it was (212). As per Google it is an Illinois area code. Unless Google is being slanderous.
Yea, it's a local code for some of the outlying areas.

The letter from the PR rep was priceless. It sounded just like all of the disclaimers at the end of the Happy Fun Ball parody commercial on SNL.

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As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.
You make it sound like this guy and his organization have some sort of capability right out of a James Bond flick.

As for all of those offices you visited, how many times did you visit and for how long? In each of those cities listed, I could find several buildings that rent short term office space. Not too much of a stretch to set up an office for a few days to wow a client, or your own HR guy, and then shut it down when they leave.

Scammers been pulling shit like that for decades.
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Old 9 December 2009, 19:39
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This seems like it has the trappings of another EO and Sandline novel, if true, corporate wet dream or not, history has a way of repeating itself. Here are a few thoughts IMHO for whoever is interested and left at the company.

1. Immediately stop any more press releases in the AO. Back home play everything off as an incredibly ambitious and juvenile idea based in fiction …………… from now on. Show the James Bond like photo with the two women.

2. Do not rename the company for an inert gas next to Xenon on the periodic table because OPSEC is shot due to #1 above.

3. Never state a force is better armed and better trained publicly. More asymmetrical TTPs and IEDs will surely appear before you know it.

4. Understand that no gringo or foreigner will go unnoticed anywhere at any time in the AO. This is very important so plan well.

5. Do not make reference to any political sponsors. Take heed of this one. They will appear and take credit if everything turns out ok, if it doesn’t, be prepared for another profession! Teaching perhaps is a good one.

6. The problem wasn’t created in a day and it won’t be ended anywhere near the timeline. It will end when every last penny/peso can be extracted from the situation.

7. Government entities are not effective in doing the work for a reason other than lower level corruption, insufficient resources, and inability. Understand that they will still have their jobs no matter what the outcome. You may be the cut away entity here so be prepared for that. Do the work but have situational awareness with respect to upper level stakeholders and who is benefitting from what.

8. Do not rest the entire business model on this type of project for the future, period.

9. Significant tactical/operational level Intel will come from locals. You don’t know jack squat and are not working with authorities there right? So there must be what I call magic Intel to drive Operations. Watch the magic vs. your local sources for inconsistencies. You can’t operate unilaterally. Know the sources well and control all information flow.

10. Don’t be led around the AO by bad Intel just weakening rivals and consolidating power to a few that would otherwise not be able to obtain it. This accomplishes nothing to solve the strategic problem. Consider that the strategic problem is not meant to be solved, just transformed.

11. Rehire anyone that may have been fired or offer some compensation until employment is obtained. Kneejerk firings just create bad situations. Nothing good ever comes from it and nothing will go perfectly with something like this. If the project is for real then this small image issue is nothing, forget it and move forward. If adversity can’t be dealt with more maturely, just wait, things are really going to get interesting with a lot of youngsters running around the country.

12. There are significant status of forces and weapons issues the legal department or person should be fully engaged in vs. forum poster busting. Permisos para porte armas for everyone and immunity first off, good luck with that.

13. No girl friends. Stay out of the whore houses!!! Nothing good will come out of that either.

I know I’ve just blown any chances at the in-country PM slot with the last thought. Well, so much for thinking. Buena Suerte.
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Old 9 December 2009, 22:20
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Really?

Did you just put that much effort into this thread? Two thumbs up!
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Man, busy traveling for a few days and see all this comedy/drama. This company sounds like it was started by a 15 year old.

I had plenty of good replies that came to mind while reading this sob story, but then they all seemed to vanish like this company. In the end it really does not matter.
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I heard you get a $300. line of credit with Bank of America for signing on.

No credit check.
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Old 10 December 2009, 07:06
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...<snipped for brevity> ... I also have visited others in Atlanta, Los Angeles, Toronto, Chicago, Dallas, Sydney and London.
(bold, underline is mine)

Bullshit, complete and utter! Sydney is not as big a city as some think. Pop barely 4Mil warm bodies and the security industry downunder is very incestuous. How you expect us to believe that your company waltzed into Sydney Australia, set up an office and not one local yokel took notice is beyond me!

This is my home turf (Sydney boy here) and with the amount of research I've been doing about the industry at home these last couple of months, there is no way I wouldn't have heard about your group!

If you did/do business here, I would have heard the company name. If you are not doing business here, then why have an office? ...and before you go and claim an Aussie Govt. secret contract, unplug your PC and walk away quietly because There are no Aussie Govt. contracts, secret or otherwise, out there with your company's name on it or anything that sounds similar.

If you did in fact visit Sydney, tell me what suburb the office was situated in ... was it St Kilda, or Fortitude valley? And which terminal at Bankstown Airport you flew into. PM if you feel the need for secrecy.

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