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Old 22 October 2019, 17:01
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Outstanding, sir. Glad he had people like to respond.
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Old 10 November 2019, 11:13
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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/dr-m...eteran-suicide

As with all who serve and for those who have served, suicide among veterans is an issue that hits home. It is also an issue that in theory should be avoidable. Tomorrow is a day that we remember those past and present brothers and sisters who gave to this great nation we live in. Lately I have made a serious effort to be there for anyone I know that serves, or has served, and is dealing with life's demons. This was an extremely rough year for our unit with the rotation we filled, and guys are suffering and will continue to suffer. Wearing the uniform we are all our brothers keeper to the best of our ability. Take care and happy veterans day all! DOL
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Old 10 November 2019, 23:06
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0230 on Monday my phone rang. I didn't hear it but my wife did.

She woke me up and I looked at the display. It was my former beat partner from when I was in uniform. I immediately knew why he was calling. He had been hospitalized last spring for mental health issues and alcohol. The stress of divorce combined with drinking. Toxic combo for cops, and others.

Basically he is a bad drunk and was getting wrung out by his wife (now ex, who is also a lawyer).

I called him back right away and he was on the line with another former coworker. The local police were called (we all three live in different towns and worked in 4th).

I live one exit down the highway from him so I headed down there just as the medics and police arrived. He was cooperative but angry and drunk.

Basically he was on a substance abuse bender for about 3 weeks.

He was transported to the ED by ambulance. They allowed him to stay in a regular treatment room while I was there but eventually locked him in the mental health crisis unit. I made arrangements for him to be admitted to a program designed for cops/ff/etc. He had been there before.

He's locked in now and hopefully gets squared away.
Most importantly, he is still alive. Where there is a heart beat, there's hope.
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Old 10 November 2019, 23:08
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Thank you.
How's our boy doing? You still owe me a phone call about someone else we discussed.
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Old 26 November 2019, 14:04
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Unfortunately another warrior has let depression take his life. Active airforce airman matt carter stationed at nellis afb passed last night. Rest easy and may God bless and comfort your family.
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Old 27 November 2019, 20:53
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Train your monkey-brain

I was watching the YouTube the other day of the people of India, catching monkeys. They didn’t have to work real hard to get them either.

If I could give anyone struggling with PTSD one piece of advice it'd be to train your monkey.

Be aware that your monkey-brain is winning. Be aware that we do not make significantly informative decisions with our monkey-brain. That part of the brain is there to make a decision but usually not the correct one. Train your monkey and get that dumb thing back in the cage!

The Monkey-Trappers take a shiny object and place it in a hole that is only big enough to fit its hand. They put it in there as the monkey is watching. As soon as the human leaves, the monkey puts his hand in the hole and grabs the object. The monkey is now unable to pull their hand out because the shiny object they are holding on to has made their hand bigger than the hole. The Monkey-Trapper walks over as the monkey struggles to remove his hand from the hole, still grasping the shiny object for dear life. The man simply puts a rope around the monkey's neck and walks away with it.

Don't live a life inside your monkey-brain. We’re all way smarter then monkeys.

Ask for help.
Being forced is way, way harder.
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Old 13 December 2019, 09:09
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It's never as bad as it seems. There are always folks who are in worse situations who still make a difference. Many of you may know Jack Fanning who was injured in a training jump. He is a dear friend and the reason I no longer own my "wheelchair gun", a sawed-off 10 gauge shotgun.

Jack had my St. Michael medallion in his pocket when he made this first jump after his parachute accident:

https://vimeo.com/82435964

2017 BK GRANITE RANCH https://binged.it/2Efuf0w


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Old 4 January 2020, 20:40
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Just got word that a SF Brother, Bob Jarmin, ended it last night. Another friend just sent this.


WHEN THEY COME
Many times they have come; they torment us in many ways. They speak multiple languages and remind us of what we used to be and the life we loved so much.
They are clever in the ways of deception and hopelessness. They are capable of robbing us of hope and joy, they feed on our longing for our brothers that have enriched our lives and given us the one thing that forever comforts us; brotherly love and camaraderie.
They disguise themselves as the righteous that condemn us for our service to our God, Nation and family.
They whisper in our ears during sleepless nights when our thoughts are of long lost brothers in arms and the exhilaration of victory during our youth. They can bring “heaviness” over us. We hear them at times during the coming darkness or the stillness of night. They silently slip into our thoughts, in our minds eye they show us the joyous past of our youth, the smiles and laughing of our brothers the daring accomplishments of the young invincible men we once were. They convince us that the joyous life we had is now over, our friends are no more our existence is now useless and unnecessary. They attempt to isolate us from the ones that love us.
In the end they can convince even the strongest among us that our families are better off without them.
WHEN THE DEMONS COME:
JWS

Brothers, the demons are real. We have all experienced them, call each other when possible and just talk. Reunions are important to all of us that have served, keep the reunions going.
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Old 4 January 2020, 21:06
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When I saw you posted on this thread I said, “damn it”, in my head...

I am sorry you lost one of your brothers.

Prayers out.
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Old 4 January 2020, 21:25
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May you now rest in peace, Brother....
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Old 4 January 2020, 21:29
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Am sorry you guys lost a Brother~
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Old 4 January 2020, 23:36
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Just got word that a SF Brother, Bob Jarmin, ended it last night. Another friend just sent this.


WHEN THEY COME
Many times they have come; they torment us in many ways. They speak multiple languages and remind us of what we used to be and the life we loved so much.
They are clever in the ways of deception and hopelessness. They are capable of robbing us of hope and joy, they feed on our longing for our brothers that have enriched our lives and given us the one thing that forever comforts us; brotherly love and camaraderie.
They disguise themselves as the righteous that condemn us for our service to our God, Nation and family.
They whisper in our ears during sleepless nights when our thoughts are of long lost brothers in arms and the exhilaration of victory during our youth. They can bring “heaviness” over us. We hear them at times during the coming darkness or the stillness of night. They silently slip into our thoughts, in our minds eye they show us the joyous past of our youth, the smiles and laughing of our brothers the daring accomplishments of the young invincible men we once were. They convince us that the joyous life we had is now over, our friends are no more our existence is now useless and unnecessary. They attempt to isolate us from the ones that love us.
In the end they can convince even the strongest among us that our families are better off without them.
WHEN THE DEMONS COME:
JWS

Brothers, the demons are real. We have all experienced them, call each other when possible and just talk. Reunions are important to all of us that have served, keep the reunions going.

Rest peacefully, Brother. I am sorry you saw this as your only solution.
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Old 5 January 2020, 08:09
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Some 50 years later the struggle is real !
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Old 6 January 2020, 08:13
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Some 50 years later the struggle is real !
And it is rather apparent to me when I walk the halls at a VA hospital to pass the time, that the quality of care and caring some of these Gov't employees possess, has not improved any! So many of you Vets get strung out in the system waiting for much needed care, and so many refuse to seek care......
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Old 6 January 2020, 10:15
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^^^ Luckily that has not been what I have seen at James Haley VA Hospital here in Tampa.
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Old 8 January 2020, 15:25
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If anyone on here, or someone you know, is looking for high quality, free mental health therapy, please check out www.getheadstrong.org. I've been seeing a therapist at Headstrong for over 5 years and it has undoubtedly saved my life, in addition to just making me a better person. I've referred tons of other vets, all with similar positive results. They are in several cities in the US and incredibly easy to access. Please feel free to PM me with questions.
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Old 9 January 2020, 14:11
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^ +1. A great organization with tremendous and highly professional resources.
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Old 9 January 2020, 15:59
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This a great thread and those that are posting are probably helping more than they know. I guess I am an OG, and for you younger guys/gals, this crap stains you. I will say it gets better and is manageable. While everyone's combat experience is unique, the affects come from the same menu. Therapy can help. Sometimes it does not. Sometimes it takes a few rounds. Sometimes the stain remains. I was never able to shake nightmares - the other night I actually punched straight up in the air in my sleep...it woke me up. WTF was that?! I watched two motorists get in a verbal altercation and it made start shaking...huh? I still shake on the range. Its embarrassing to me, but I still go occasionally. I still feel guilty for a bunch of reasons and always will. I have lots of regrets. I tremendously miss my tribe and have never been able to fill that whole. We talk on the phone and joke through texts, but its extremely hard when you have nobody in meatspace - the Internet is limiting. Its easy to get depressed or find yourself in a thought spiral...but...life is a gift. You will be stronger through the adversity and your experience will help those that follows. You are valuable to your family and friends, even though it might not feel like it because you are in your head too much. Leopardprey had a good post a while back and the advice is solid. It really boils down to "keep moving" and keep doing. If you get stuck, there is a lot really intelligent and wise people on this Board that give advice/time freely. Take a chance on reaching out and give talking to someone a try. I hope you do.
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Old 11 January 2020, 18:11
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A friend of mine up in Delaware just lost a good friend to suicide. No warnings at all. My friend later shared this link (it's a Tumblr post) called "Everything Is Awful and I’m Not Okay: questions to ask before giving up." You can print the post out, or there's a PDF version available. It's 16 simple self-care questions and suggestions that may be enough to help you through a crisis.

Everything Is Awful and I’m Not Okay: questions to ask before giving up
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Old 12 January 2020, 09:14
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Ok I may take a heat round for this link but I discovered it about 2 weeks ago driving to a TDY. I listened to it just cuz I got tired of listening to my normal language study app. Yeah it’s an Oprah show but don’t let that dissuade you from listening. Just listen. Parts of it Will be of benefit to at least a couple folks here. I have listened to it about 5 times so far. There are some nuggets that are Aha moments- at least for me.

https://omny.fm/shows/oprah-s-supers...shop-t-d-jakes
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