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And it's true, as far as the majority of the violence going on, you can track it easily to various districts and neighborhoods to the south and west. I'm always on the lookout when I head to Chicago, but I'm that way even where I live. Funny thing is, I experienced closer calls with shootings and violence the year I spent down in Carbondale than I ever have in Chicago. In fact, about a week or so after I arrived down there to start school, I barely missed getting caught in the crossfire of a gang shootout on Washington St. just north of Rte 13. There was one killed and close to 50 shots fired back and forth across the street. I'd driven past that site earlier that day, and not much earlier. And then of course there were the gunshots that I heard on a fairly regular basis coming from a small housing project just to the northeast of my apartment, which was just off campus. I was actually surprised at the amount of gang activity in my neighborhood, but I probably shouldn't have been. Most of these knuckleheads had migrated there from Chicago.
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I don't know which was worse, Statesville or Cook County Jail at 26th and California. I remember doing an engineering survey back in the early 70s at Cook County when Winston Moore was the warden. I asked for an escort to look at the old Bridewell. He told me "Don't worry, if the prisoners do anything to you, they'll be in big trouble." I'm thinking, OK, if I get cornholed by the Latin Kings or the Gangster Desciples, they're in trouble??? ![]() ![]()
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Good ole Winston Moore. Another political hack that got his job because he was connected and the right color. And he could care less about you because you couldn't do anything for him.
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I think that over the years, the County can hold its own with the city it terms of corruption and nepotism. That being said, I still think that Chicago is a world class city.
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Call me crazy but I think the attempted kidnapping of a young child who is with her parents in Daley Plaza at about 1400 hrs would be news. But when it was published on our blog which the MSM reads religiously, it kind of forced their hand and they then published it. But then again, that's the pattern here. An incident happens which makes either Rahm or the city look bad, the MSM doesn't say a word, we do and presto, there it is, on the 10:00 news. Time after time. I understand that this may sound crazy to someone who doesn't live here but trust me, this is very common.
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I agree Oldpogue. I have said that were it not for the politicians this WOULD be a great place to live. And the people that vote for them of course.
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"The trouble with Chicago, is that it's full of Chicagoan's." ![]()
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If you're not from or have never lived in Chicago, you DO NOT know what you're talking about. These guys who still live there, especially if they're on the job, are not exaggerating even slightly. Since you don't, you wouldn't know how central the location this happened is to the downtown ("The Loop") core. The sculpture referred to isn't 50m from one Federal Building and across the street from the Federal Courthouse. For someone to have tried to snatch a kid in broad daylight at that location, with hundreds of people nearby IS news. HEADLINE news.
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So last week, Rahm Emanuel very publicly rebuked CPD Superintendent Gerry McCarthy over statements McCarthy made to the press that the police department was "basically treading water" with regard to stopping the recent uptick in shootings in the city.
Today, on Meet the Press, Emaneul basically said the same thing that he had chastised McCarthy for saying when he told David Gregory that the police "were containing it". I suppose you could say that Emanuel parsed the phrasing a little and that "containing" something has a sunnier ring to it than treading water, but in effect the meaning is the same. Politicians make me ill. http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2012..._over_chi.html
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I lived/worked in the DC area when it routinely maintained the highest murder rate due to shootings. My theory was as long as innocents dont get shot/killed...who gives a shit? In fact, I say roll out with boxes of 9mm and kick them out the back of the truck so they have more ammo to kill each other with! I rarely cry when scum bleeds out on the sidewalks of a murder Capitol. The kids and babay-mammas left behind are better off without them, and they are likely already on the government dole anyway. Same Chicago...let them kill each other and thin out the herd. But when they venture out and kill innocents come down on them in a manner they will teach a lesson to the ones still standing.
And keep them away from JD KADDS...best damn pizza in the Chicago burbs!!! But I will say it is bullshit that people want to keep pointing out that murders are taking place close to POTUS' home. That is not his fault and no matter what I think of the guy, he cannot stop that shit. |
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Still reported. Still looks bad for Chicago. My point stands - if they completely controlled the media no one would have heard about it, right? Yet we all did. Even me, all the way out here in California, and I think Chicago is a shithole.
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+1000 to Spinner. This is why I left the PD at Calumet City after 11 yrs. I had rank and could have coasted inside the system, but I couldn't bear the thought of 9 more yrs with my hands tied after coming back from the HIDTA. When Chicago tore the housing projects down and issued vouchers, that demographic and the related clergy, social experimentists, etc came with it out to the south suburbs like Cal City (whichwas always a higher crime than the other burbs to begin with). The job changed drastically in a very short time, and I really felt like I had a good chance of getting thrown under the bus for being proactive if I stayed. Luckily, contracting OCONUS was still good at the time and I made the jump. I'm been able to keep steady since then, and now the guys in my peer group at the PD are seriously worried about their pensions, etc.
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When will these municipalities learn that this does not work? |
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MSNBC is in the bag for the Democrats, CNN also is with very few exceptions, and FOX is in the bag for the Republicans. And in Chicago, everyone is in the bag for the machine, with very few exceptions. Why does anyone even argue about this stuff anymore? (Not that KidA was - I'm just speaking generally on this point.) Yeah, you heard about it out in CA, but the only reason you heard about it is because you're on this board and someone who is educated and interested brought it to your attention. This occurred near the F'in Mayor's office, county court, and a Sheriff's Office and it took three days to make the news THERE. |
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In my view this was a non-crime. No one was snatched. No one was taken. Nothing happened. Someone tried something. Big deal. Should it shock anyone that someone tried to snatch someone? People are snatched every single day. How many do you hear about it? Why is the proximity a big deal? Snatching is a crime of opportunity. Should the Mayor's office have a task force of police out there every second making sure no one does anything as much as litter in front of Hizzoner? If we had to hear about every potential snatching papers would be 50 pages thick and that's all they'd cover. Sorry, but it's a non frickin issue. ANd of course there's bias, but no one could STOP the paper from printing it, could they? THey didn't print it at first because it's a non story, then they needed space to fill so they put a blurb in about it.
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Why is it more important that a potential crime didn't happen in one place instead of another? And again - it was reported. Should it have made the NYT, WaPo, CNN and Fox all at once? Huge headlining story? So if it was reported, and the image of the city was damaged (if it was, I think no one gives a flying fuck which is why they didn't keep reporting it because the little clicks on the story didn't add up to enough dollars) where is all the media control? You'd think the story would be outright quashed but it wasn't.
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I guess I wasn't clear enough.
You're spewing bullshit. You're claiming that the media (at least in Chicago) isn't controlled by the Democrats despite the fact that multiple people from Chicago, with years and years of experience in and around the city's political climate, are telling you different. In order to justify your claim you're wholeheartedly defending the idea that a child being kidnapped in the middle of a major city's tourist thoroughfare isn't newsworthy. You're either incredibly stupid or incredibly good at identifying a narrative and sticking to it. You don't appear to be stupid, so by process of elimination I identified you as someone who would be good at PR. Beyond that, your narrative sucks. You're sitting there blathering on about HuffPo, NYT, WaPo, etc. when it doesn't appear as if the original poster's intent was to claim that the national news media should have been all over the story. He stated: Quote:
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