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Old 2 December 2003, 13:49
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Che Impact

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB5/che11_1.htm

Looking back, how accurate was this report?
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Old 2 December 2003, 14:05
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Not very accurate
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Old 2 December 2003, 14:08
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Specifics? Did you read the part about the impact on LATAM?
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Old 2 December 2003, 14:19
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What I wanna know is why all these young kids I see are wearing Che T-shirts and stickers on their car. I love enlightening these idiots with who he really was. I really hate ignorant people!!

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Old 2 December 2003, 14:23
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Specifics? Did you read the part about the impact on LATAM?
Yes just busy, as hell will try to put something together
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Old 2 December 2003, 14:26
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What I wanna know is why all these young kids I see are wearing Che T-shirts and stickers on their car.
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'Cause it looks cool.
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Old 2 December 2003, 14:35
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The last quote about Castro's spell on the hemisphere...but then reading SGTROCK's post (good point)... Not the same young supporters but same naive idealistic views on everything...

He has more influence as a martyr and symbol than he did or in my opinion would have.



Has anyone read Motorcycle diaries?

I think who he was and perhaps could have been is part of the attraction for today’s youth...

You can't dismiss the facts because it does not fit your saintly vision...

Your right though Sneaky, cause it looks cool. I have seen some that don't know who's image it is, some band uses it on t-shirts...
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Old 2 December 2003, 14:45
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Naked SocShoot tshirts look cool! An ugly man with a beard and a french beret does not look cool ! But thats just my homophobic opinion!!

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BTW some bitch down here in Mexico stole my SocShoot Tshirt!!!!
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Old 2 December 2003, 14:46
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I knew absolutely nothing about Che until I came to this board. Then I saw Sneaky used to have his avatar with a big X on it. I was at the book store and I saw a 800-900 pg book about Che, but wasn't sure of the bias of the book so I never bought it.

I am currently reading three books at the moment and don't really know if I wish to really get into Che in much depth.

Besides being a comminust/guerilla/revolutionary, was this guy into atrocities?

I am really ignorant as to why Che is so hated. Maybe a few of today's youth are in the same boat.
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Old 2 December 2003, 14:50
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Che was headman for the cleansings done after the revolution. Yeah, he would comitt atrocities.

I don't hate him.
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Old 2 December 2003, 14:55
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Off topic for a minute. Anyone remember the name of that ass clown Congressman that invited and met Daniel Ortega and violated the law doing it. In the 1980's I think.
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Old 2 December 2003, 15:00
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Better than most...

Better than most sites I have seen....


http://www.popsubculture.com/pop/bio...e_guevara.html
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Old 2 December 2003, 15:01
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Maybe Congressman Mike Barnes of Maryland? He is now a spokesman for Handgun Control, Inc.
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Old 2 December 2003, 15:03
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Maybe Congressman Mike Barnes of Maryland? He is now a spokesman for Handgun Control, Inc.
No, that's not the one. I'm thinking the dude was from Texas. I could be wrong though. I think he was Speaker of the House at the time or shortly after.
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Old 2 December 2003, 15:17
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James C. Wright?
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Old 2 December 2003, 15:30
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Jim Wright

was Speaker of the House at that time. (1987)
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Old 2 December 2003, 15:56
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Future of LATAM

Not to change the subject, but do you see Hugo Chavez as being cut from the same cloth as Guevarra? Or, at least trying to fashion himself this way - as a kind of Guevarra that made it to the top? I don't think Chavez is so much an idealist as a megalomaniac with a touche of Don Quixote Syndrome. Maybe Che really was an idealist (in the butcherous, Leon Trotsky sense of the word), I don't really know. Does anyone see what's going on with Chavez as a sign of a kind of rennaissance of insurgencies with Marxist or populist bents in Latin America?

Seven or eight years ago, the financial world was hailing Venezuela as the next rising star. Venezuela today looks to me to have been a very fragile debutant, whose promise was shattered by what, by historical standards, was a garden variety economic downturn. At the first sign of trouble, it appears they are falling back on the same old anti-Imperialist dogma. Is the emergence of someone like Hugo Chavez a harbinger of things to come?
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Re: Better than most...

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Better than most sites I have seen....


http://www.popsubculture.com/pop/bio...e_guevara.html
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Old 2 December 2003, 16:04
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I see Chavez as a Castro-wannabe. I think he might be frustrated by not having had a revolution to carry him to the top. I think he is a simple minded populist, same cut as Lula (but not as smart), Guterrez in Ecuador (but smarter), etc. There is definitely a wave of populists being elected.
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Old 2 December 2003, 16:11
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I see Chavez as a Castro-wannabe.
They are all trying to cast themselves in the mold of Bolivar. I wonder if it irks them that a statue of him is in Washington DC?
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