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Old 5 December 2018, 21:14
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Why are you posting if you know nothing about this case? If you knew anything about this case, you'd know that your personal experience about "teammates" throwing people under the bus doesn't apply in this case.
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M's comments about witnesses who have no incentive to shade the facts, is true in my humble estimation and has been the basis for courts accepting their testimony as truthful.
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Old 5 December 2018, 22:20
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M's comments about witnesses who have no incentive to shade the facts, is true in my humble estimation and has been the basis for courts accepting their testimony as truthful.
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Crikey...apparently you know nothing about the case, as well. Go read up on the case.
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Old 5 December 2018, 22:21
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Why are you posting if you know nothing about this case? If you knew anything about this case, you'd know that your personal experience about "teammates" throwing people under the bus doesn't apply in this case.
It's a general statement. It sounds like multiple of his teammates have implicated him in what the UCMJ and the reasonable person would consider crimes, and that they've done it because they wanted to not because they got an immunity agreement or "had to". That's usually a bad sign for the defendant. According to published reports some of his SEAL teammates have described him shooting at teenage girls and an old man.
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Old 5 December 2018, 22:33
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Crikey...apparently you know nothing about the case, as well. Go read up on the case.
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No offense intended. Sorry you took it.
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Old 5 December 2018, 22:42
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It's a general statement. It sounds like multiple of his teammates have implicated him in what the UCMJ and the reasonable person would consider crimes, and that they've done it because they wanted to not because they got an immunity agreement or "had to". That's usually a bad sign for the defendant. According to published reports some of his SEAL teammates have described him shooting at teenage girls and an old man.
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No offense intended. Sorry you took it.
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I didn't take offense. I will write it again...both of you are apparently unaware of the facts of the case. The defense has presented testimony from witnesses that (if true) provides motivation for his subordinates to testify against him, or make false allegations against him. I'm not taking a side (as posted before), I'll wait for the cases to be done.
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Old 5 December 2018, 22:51
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I didn't take offense. I will write it again...both of you are apparently unaware of the facts of the case. The defense has presented testimony from witnesses that (if true) provides motivation for his subordinates to testify against him, or make false allegations against him. I'm not taking a side (as posted before), I'll wait for the cases to be done.
I did read that and he is of course owed due process like everybody else.
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Old 5 December 2018, 22:59
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Google "Master Sergeant Joseph Newell." Read that case. Then Google "Master Sergeant Troy Anderson." Read that case. You will then have a bit of insight into my reasons for withholding judgment until cases are done.
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Old 5 December 2018, 23:07
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I didn't take offense. I will write it again...both of you are apparently unaware of the facts of the case. …..I'll wait for the cases to be done.
I have been following it, too. As will I. v/r fkl
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Gavin is correct and I agree with him. I'm waiting for the cases to conclude.

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Google "Master Sergeant Joseph Newell." Read that case. Then Google "Master Sergeant Troy Anderson." Read that case. You will then have a bit of insight into my reasons for withholding judgment until cases are done.
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