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Old 29 September 2016, 08:26
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THE Glock 17 - the Role Model?

Picked up yet another Glock 17. Over the last 20 years have owned several of them, along with probably over another dozen various Glock models. Have used the G17 through various training courses and even carried one a few times overseas.

Seems the G17 is kind of the cornerstone of handguns, that which others are measured. Good for carry, good for training, and training others - why I bought yet another one.

Just a good, reliable, proven handgun with a 17 round magazine.

If one can only have one handgun here, abroad, whether for personal defense, home defense or as a duty weapon..the Glock 17 is hard to beat.

$499, what they are going for in my area, is not a bad price at all either. Picked mine up for $530, cause the store had Cerekoted the frame in gunmetal gray, which I thought looked pretty cool.
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Old 29 September 2016, 08:32
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If I am just carrying the pistol, I prefer the G19. If I have to shoot it, I prefer the G17.
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Old 29 September 2016, 08:39
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Kind of strange, at least in my mind, my brother's agency (a large Federal agency), is switching out their Sig 229s, for the Glock Platform. They are going to be issuing every agent a Glock 26 and a Glock 19. I am sur ether have their reasons, but I think issuing a Glock 26 and a Glock 17 would have been a better choice.

The Glock 19 is also kind of the cornerstone, but I personally don't see that much difference carry wise between the 19 and 17, so I say go with the 17.

Never been much of a fan of the 26, though my brother likes the platform and carries now on a daily basis, and the 26 is very popular with the upper echelons in Cambodia. Put several of thru a course with their 26s. ($3500 for a Glock 26 in Cambodia. )

BTW, anyone try a Tungsten Recoil spring guide rod in their 19 or 17? I usually swap out the plastic rod for a SS one. Hear mixed reviews on the tungsten ones, great for reducing muzzle flip, felt recoil, but may not stand up over time for high round counts. ?
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Old 29 September 2016, 10:17
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One of the best features of the Glock line is the fact that they kept the mags/mag wells consistent through each major caliber (which is something some other manufacturers did not do). LP, I applaud your brother's agency for willingness to issue two of anything to the agents. Shows they think about weapons more than the average agency.
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Old 29 September 2016, 10:21
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I applaud your brother's agency for willingness to issue two of anything to the agents. Shows they think about weapons more than the average agency.
That speaks volumes about an agency. I have six weapons that are issued by my agency. In that arena, we are truly blessed for that as I know of multiple agencies that don't provide any at all.
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Old 29 September 2016, 10:57
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BTW, anyone try a Tungsten Recoil spring guide rod in their 19 or 17? I usually swap out the plastic rod for a SS one. Hear mixed reviews on the tungsten ones, great for reducing muzzle flip, felt recoil, but may not stand up over time for high round counts. ?
Tungsten (W) vs Stainless Steel (SS). The main difference is weight. Some shooters say they can feel the difference...having shot both, I cannot. I would say that either in a G19 is fine to control flip and provided faster follow up shots. The G19 & G17 are generally good and accurate out of the box, so the after market stuff is more preferential to individual tastes. But, I prefer to change only the sights, the guide rod, and install a plug to the grip base.
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Old 29 September 2016, 12:54
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The Glock 19 is also kind of the cornerstone, but I personally don't see that much difference carry wise between the 19 and 17, so I say go with the 17.
I carry a concealed G19 daily for work. One of my partners carries and conceals a G17. He prints ALL THE TIME at the back of his suit coat. Probably also doesn't help that his choice of holster leaves a little to be desired.
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Old 30 September 2016, 13:45
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Kind of strange, at least in my mind, my brother's agency (a large Federal agency), is switching out their Sig 229s, for the Glock Platform. They are going to be issuing every agent a Glock 26 and a Glock 19. I am sur ether have their reasons, but I think issuing a Glock 26 and a Glock 17 would have been a better choice.

The Glock 19 is also kind of the cornerstone, but I personally don't see that much difference carry wise between the 19 and 17, so I say go with the 17.

Never been much of a fan of the 26, though my brother likes the platform and carries now on a daily basis, and the 26 is very popular with the upper echelons in Cambodia. Put several of thru a course with their 26s. ($3500 for a Glock 26 in Cambodia. )

BTW, anyone try a Tungsten Recoil spring guide rod in their 19 or 17? I usually swap out the plastic rod for a SS one. Hear mixed reviews on the tungsten ones, great for reducing muzzle flip, felt recoil, but may not stand up over time for high round counts. ?
I did this mod (recoil guide rod) on my G23 .40 comp. I only have around 1500 rounds downrange, but no wear I can discern. I added an extended slide stop (Vickers) and an extended mag release which I ended up dremeling down a bit.

And did I hear you say $3500 for a G26 in Cambodia? Geez, almost makes me wish I knew someone in the export business, that is quite a margin. Wonder if the Shark Tankers would be interested? Probably a mountain of regulations to jump over for sure, sigh.
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Old 29 September 2016, 10:10
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We are issued the Glock 22 and most guys have a 27 for off duty or low profile carry. Since a policy change, I acquired a Glock 19 and find it a perfect all around handgun for work and everyday carry as it is easily concealed and can still hold 15 +1 with the standard mag. At work we have a couple cases of 9mm+P I am working through, so there is not a whole lot of difference between the 22 and the 19 when shooting, at least to me.
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Old 29 September 2016, 10:33
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We are issued the Glock 22 and most guys have a 27 for off duty or low profile carry. Since a policy change, I acquired a Glock 19 and find it a perfect all around handgun for work and everyday carry as it is easily concealed and can still hold 15 +1 with the standard mag. At work we have a couple cases of 9mm+P I am working through, so there is not a whole lot of difference between the 22 and the 19 when shooting, at least to me.
We carry the 22, which I'm finally warming up to. I bought a 27 and I find it pretty useless. I'm probably getting rid of it and getting a 23.
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Old 29 September 2016, 14:14
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We carry the 22, which I'm finally warming up to. I bought a 27 and I find it pretty useless. I'm probably getting rid of it and getting a 23.
Overall I think you'll be happier with the 23. About the only time I bust out the 27 these days is during hot weather when going to baseball games or other family type functions.
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Old 29 September 2016, 16:43
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Overall I think you'll be happier with the 23. About the only time I bust out the 27 these days is during hot weather when going to baseball games or other family type functions.
Yeah the 27 just seems pointless. If I want to carry some bigger than my 43 and smaller than my 19 I'll carry my 26 with higher mag capacity, slightly easier to conceal and much easier to shoot.
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Old 29 September 2016, 21:43
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Yeah the 27 just seems pointless. If I want to carry some bigger than my 43 and smaller than my 19 I'll carry my 26 with higher mag capacity, slightly easier to conceal and much easier to shoot.
I hear you man. Years ago we were stuck with the 22/23/27 as our only options. I picked up a 27 due to its size and concealability. Never had any issues shooting it and my quals were always comparable to the 22. All of that's a non issue now that we can carry whatever Glock we want barring some exceptions.
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I was issued one by my agency in 1991. I thought they were trying to kill me. Plastic gun? What the freaking budget pencil pusher hell?

But, I quickly realized how far out ahead we were on that one.
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About the only time I bust out the 27 these days is during hot weather when going to baseball games or other family type functions.
I don't want to socialize with anyone who doesn't understand the wisdom of this statement.
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We carry the 22, which I'm finally warming up to. I bought a 27 and I find it pretty useless. I'm probably getting rid of it and getting a 23.
I carried one for a while (the G 27) and while I sold it, it was due to my abandonment of the caliber, not the pistol itself. I have a G 26 that I have and carried just last night. The subcompact has its utility for uniformed officers, in the form of a BUG that is easily concealed in your vest and takes your G 22 magazines. Keep the G 27 and buy the G 23. Ammo prices for 40 S&W are falling into the toilet.

A quick cursory check of olfactory sensors indicates little if any derogatory aroma coming from your avatar when it comes to complaining of the "muzzle flip" like some who shall not be named.
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Old 29 September 2016, 10:15
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Original and still the best. I think the G19 is more universally concealable, but the 17 shoots (IMO) better than all the other models.
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Original and still the best. I think the G19 is more universally concealable, but the 17 shoots (IMO) better than all the other models.
I carry my 19 off duty almost exclusively. I wish the PD went with those instead of the 17. I don't shoot as well with the 17 for some reason.

Most guys on my job who carry the 17 like it. Many have no firearms experience outside of police work so their experiences can be a little limited. We have been bullying people into learning more. Baby steps.

I also own a 26 and am issued a 30 because I am in a plainclothes assignment.
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Old 29 September 2016, 10:24
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I carry my 19 off duty almost exclusively. I wish the PD went with those instead of the 17. I don't shoot as well with the 17 for some reason.

I also own a 26 and am issued 30 because I am in a plainclothes assignment.
I'm glad Gaston provided us so many options. I carry the 26 almost full-time, either in one of Litepath's IWBs, or on my ankle. It's not my preferred shooter, but I like being able to put it in multiple locations. Hard for me to cover up my a 17 in cargo shorts & t-shirt. I know some people do it, I just don't find it comfortable.
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I've been wanting to add a new shotgun and a new handgun to my stash, still leaning towards the KSG on the shotgun but not 100%. I'm about 90% on a new G19 but every once in a while I give the G17 a look.

I also have the G26 and love it, if I'm wearing shorts and t-shirt that cant hide a holster well I can just throw it in a pocket. Of course its Condition 3 when its loose in a pocket but that's better than not having anything at all.
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