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Old 15 December 2015, 14:49
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Ranger School

Does anyone have current insight into what the likelihood of getting a ranger school slot after CAQC is? In recent years these slots have been harder to get in the big Army. Curious to know what it's like on the SOF side. Thanks.
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Old 15 December 2015, 15:04
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Old 15 December 2015, 15:09
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Additionally, what's the culture like in CA in terms of having a tab? For example, if you're an infantry officer in an infantry battalion you better have a tab if you want to go anywhere in life. Does that sentiment exist in CA?
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Old 15 December 2015, 15:11
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For an O, there is no benefit, nor is there any expectation for 38's to be tabbed. If you were enlisted, that would be different, you'd be considered a stud.
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Old 15 December 2015, 15:15
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I can see a scenario where you're briefing some ambassador or something and he doesn't take you seriously because you're not a Ranger. It's amazing how much credence people pay the tab. I'm an officer and don't care about being tabbed unless it gives me more credibility with people I work with both inside the CA branch and with state department and NGO types. It really doesn't matter?
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Old 16 December 2015, 00:10
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I can see a scenario where you're briefing some ambassador or something and he doesn't take you seriously because you're not a Ranger. It's amazing how much credence people pay the tab. I'm an officer and don't care about being tabbed unless it gives me more credibility with people I work with both inside the CA branch and with state department and NGO types.
LMAO, I'm not gunna hop on the beat down train (actually I might after reading that), but if an AMBO is only going to take you seriously if you have a short tab there are far greater issues at hand. At the end of the day, No. One. Gives. A. Fuck.

But yeah, you're a fucking douche for saying you don't want a short tab unless you get something out of it. It's kind of the antithesis of going to school, but whateves, us enlisted swine are just here to get your promoted...
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...but whateves, us enlisted swine are just here to get your promoted...
Speak for yourself, man. I am here for the quality healthcare and sense of purpose I gain from serving my country!!!

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Old 16 December 2015, 16:59
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if an AMBO is only going to take you seriously if you have a short tab...
I'm going to guess that most ambassadors couldn't even explain the difference between a Ranger Tab and an EGA, nor do they care. In most cases, you're just another guy in funny clothes interfering with their "diplomacy". Or you're a servant there to fix things for them so they can get back to "diplomacy".
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I have worked with senior officers, politicians, ambassadors, religious leaders, and senior business/executive leadership of US and foreign nations and have NEVER heard anything remotely supporting the above comment....
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Old 15 December 2015, 15:27
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That's great to hear. Thanks for your knowledge.
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Old 15 December 2015, 17:49
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I was a 38 officer from 1992 to 2009, tabbed since 1980, and the only issue of credibility was from the Chief of Surinam's air force, who wanted to know if since I was a Ranger I had the mental agility to approach the problem set we were wrangling with. He was joking, of course, but it goes to show just how far out of kilter some thinking can be.

You want a tab, are an officer, and yet profess to not caring about getting it unless it gives you more credibility with CA, DoS, and NGOs?

I'd like to modify what I said in my initial post...

"Slim to None"

Even if you were to get a shot, you likely would be one of those who fall by the wayside.
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I was a 38 officer from 1992 to 2009, tabbed since 1980, and the only issue of credibility was from the Chief of Surinam's air force, who wanted to know if since I was a Ranger I had the mental agility to approach the problem set we were wrangling with. He was joking, of course, but it goes to show just how far out of kilter some thinking can be.

You want a tab, are an officer, and yet profess to not caring about getting it unless it gives you more credibility with CA, DoS, and NGOs?

I'd like to modify what I said in my initial post...

"Slim to None"

Even if you were to get a shot, you likely would be one of those who fall by the wayside.

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Old 15 December 2015, 18:39
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HAHA!! oh this is great, really enjoy this forum. No really, I enjoy these comments. I don't pretend to be as impressive as a lot of people in the Army, or on this forum. But I'll keep trying my best. We'll likely never know if I'd fall by the wayside, since apparently I'm not getting a slot. I'll keep working to get one regardless. Choking myself out doesn't sound like a great alternative.
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Old 15 December 2015, 18:56
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I think no matter what anyone says people want a tab for credibility. If they say they don't it's a lie. So yeah, I'll admit to that. But I also want one because I like those hard, crappy things that you gotta get through. It's a rewarding feeling personally.
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I think no matter what anyone says people want a tab for credibility. If they say they don't it's a lie. So yeah, I'll admit to that. But I also want one because I like those hard, crappy things that you gotta get through. It's a rewarding feeling personally.
Not even in your wildest dreams does anybody from DoS (Or anywhere else for that matter) give a rat's ass about a Ranger tab. Most in DOS probably have no idea what it even is, and if they did, would gasp and think you were some kind of fucking retard and neandeal for volunteering to go to a school where you don't get to eat or sleep for 8 week. Don't worry about trying to impress those guys- they are the most worthless individuals you will come into contact with downrange. But if you do want to impress people in an embassy or whatever, the #1 thing you can do is to communicate in an articulate and thoughtful manner with them.

Just try to focus on what you need to do to not be a burden to the SF teams in the country. That is all.
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Not even in your wildest dreams does anybody from DoS (Or anywhere else for that matter) give a rat's ass about a Ranger tab. Most in DOS probably have no idea what it even is, and if they did, would gasp and think you were some kind of fucking retard and neandeal for volunteering to go to a school where you don't get to eat or sleep for 8 week. Don't worry about trying to impress those guys- they are the most worthless individuals you will come into contact with downrange. But if you do want to impress people in an embassy or whatever, the #1 thing you can do is to communicate in an articulate and thoughtful manner with them.

Just try to focus on what you need to do to not be a burden to the SF teams in the country. That is all.
Who took over Mako's account? Or are you overdosing on the Prozac again?
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Who took over Mako's account? Or are you overdosing on the Prozac again?
What now? You find this to be an uncharacteristic statement?
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Old 17 December 2015, 08:47
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What now? You find this to be an uncharacteristic statement?
It was to the point, factual, and without a hint of sarcasm. Are you okay?
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Old 15 December 2015, 19:01
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A tab should be "wanted" as a reminder and insignia signifying a personal accomplishment...regardless of what anyone else would think about. YOU earned it...THEY didn't. Again, it shouldn't be a sign of credibility...that should rely upon your honor and integrity as a leader.

Also, there are times one must grow thick skin and then there are times one must go beyond that and grow scales. As a leader, you should grow scales.
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Any credibility gained by uniform bling is meaningless.

Real credibility is gained thru competence, integrity, and leadership.
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