Go Back   SOCNET: The Special Operations Community Network > General Topics > Law Enforcement

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 1 September 2017, 17:35
IronErik IronErik is online now
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Indiana
Posts: 248
Nurse arrested

Not only is the officer and his supervisor wrong, but so were the other uniformed officers present who did nothing to intervene. And I find it disturbing that this happened over 30 days ago, the officer is still working, and an investigation is still ongoing. As a nurse, I can tell you that she was absolutely correct in following her hospital policy, failure to do so could cost her her job, and maybe her license to practice.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...police-n798021
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 1 September 2017, 17:49
Saw7616 Saw7616 is offline
Nexus Schemer
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: CLT
Posts: 558
Why doesn't she simply swear out a complaint for assault and wrong imprisonment? And refuse to leave the station until that detective was arrested. Just like you can swear out a warrant when your neighbor assaults you.

This is isn't in my opinion ok. The dective does a huge disservice to his profession
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 1 September 2017, 17:53
Believeraz's Avatar
Believeraz Believeraz is offline
Rocket Surgeon
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Tilting at Windmills
Posts: 2,463
Well that was just ignorant....and will prove expensive if she sues.
__________________
_________________

"Butch up, prom queen"
-Wench
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 1 September 2017, 18:02
Gsniper Gsniper is online now
Authorized Personnel
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,293
Dumbest thing I've seen in awhile. Especially after she showed him the policy that clearly stated he had to be arrested, have a warrant or have given consent.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 1 September 2017, 18:12
The Fat Guy's Avatar
The Fat Guy The Fat Guy is offline
The Sagacious One
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pushing string down the hall
Posts: 13,112
Contempt of cop. How dare she.
__________________
No one will take better care of us, than us: Suicide Hotline: 1-800-273-8255
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 1 September 2017, 18:12
Dark Helmet's Avatar
Dark Helmet Dark Helmet is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 10,182
Fucknozzles like this that wear the badge make the good guys look bad.
__________________
All Hail the Helmet!

SGT A/1/75 86-89
Ranger Class 13-87

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my children will have peace." - Thomas Paine
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 1 September 2017, 18:19
Agoge's Avatar
Agoge Agoge is online now
Renuo Victima Esse
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vagabond
Posts: 6,274
His actions showed he was out of control and had no ability to reason with anyone. That was a problem that could have been easily handled in a more professional way from the beginning. He’s obviously a tool and will hopefully be dealt with correctly by his department.

Supervisors and administrators need to grow their backbones and handle business or start retiring/quitting.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 1 September 2017, 18:28
KS11's Avatar
KS11 KS11 is offline
Reverse Apache Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Here and There
Posts: 2,421
Those uniformed officers should have had enough sack to intervene. The detective's actions weren't even close to being in the realm of articulable and legal. I mean, hell, that wasn't even a "bad arrest." That was an assault, unlawful restraint, and kidnapping.
__________________
A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Giving the enemy a boner is half the battle. --Jungle Recon
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 1 September 2017, 18:49
just11b's Avatar
just11b just11b is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Emerald Coast
Posts: 1,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by Believeraz View Post
Well that was just ignorant....and will prove expensive if she sues.
Yep, but not from his pension or bank accounts unfortunately. This will cost the taxpayers, as it does each and every other time.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 1 September 2017, 18:51
Agoge's Avatar
Agoge Agoge is online now
Renuo Victima Esse
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vagabond
Posts: 6,274
Quote:
Originally Posted by just11b View Post
Yep, but not from his pension or bank accounts unfortunately. This will cost the taxpayers, as it does each and every other time.
Not if he violated policy and they are separated from the suit and then he is sued personally. Happens all the time.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 1 September 2017, 19:05
just11b's Avatar
just11b just11b is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Emerald Coast
Posts: 1,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agoge View Post
Not if he violated policy and they are separated from the suit and then he is sued personally. Happens all the time.
Well then it might certainly cost him more than his employment. It would have been much less headache to convince a magistrate for a blood draw warrant. It definitely seemed that he took it personally.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 1 September 2017, 19:07
Agoge's Avatar
Agoge Agoge is online now
Renuo Victima Esse
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vagabond
Posts: 6,274
Quote:
Originally Posted by just11b View Post
Well then it might certainly cost him more than his employment. It would have been much less headache to convince a magistrate for a blood draw warrant. It definitely seemed that he took it personally.
Indeed he did! His body language when he was pushing her out the door screamed that he was OOC and had lost his temper.

As to suits, most people get greedy and simply go for the deep pockets (agency) and not for the message (officer). They take the settlement and leave the officer alone.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 1 September 2017, 19:12
Steve509 Steve509 is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: NV
Posts: 826
Quote:
Originally Posted by IronErik View Post
Not only is the officer and his supervisor wrong, but so were the other uniformed officers present who did nothing to intervene. And I find it disturbing that this happened over 30 days ago, the officer is still working, and an investigation is still ongoing. As a nurse, I can tell you that she was absolutely correct in following her hospital policy, failure to do so could cost her her job, and maybe her license to practice.
All it would have taken is one guy to speak up and say, "she's right, we need a warrant."

I think, but am not certain, that even if she complied and the truck driver was under the influence, the lab results wouldn't be admissible in court since the blood was not legally obtained.

I'm also guessing the hospital would have taken a blood sample before initiating any treatment anyway, and the PD could have easily gotten a warrant to get a copy of the lab results.

The guy making the arrest shouldn't be the only one discliplined.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 1 September 2017, 19:24
maim maim is offline
Shakeyville NZ
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 508
Good job she didn't have a CCW, sounds more like assault.
__________________
"I believe that a knife should be bright and highly polished for the reason that 20% of the fight is lost by not striking awe in the mind of the victim that a flashing knife gives."
William Fairbairn
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 1 September 2017, 19:42
rubberneck rubberneck is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 537
I'm confused. The second officer, the one that talked to her in the car, said what sounded like that the guy was a victim in a fatal accident. If that's the case why do they need his blood?

The full video can be found here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.3461697
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 1 September 2017, 20:07
edd1e22 edd1e22 is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Jose CA
Posts: 562
The trucker driver/victim is supposedly a reserve officer and the detective claims he's trying to "help".
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 1 September 2017, 20:11
Five-O's Avatar
Five-O Five-O is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 981
The Cop was dead wrong and a remarkable douche. All hospitals (that I deal with) will drawn the patients blood and run a drug screen as a matter of policy and best medical practice. LE can at any time request a subpoena for the results of the drug screen. No fuss and no muss and no.... locked up nurse. I hope she buys a beach house with her awarded money.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 1 September 2017, 20:47
Baildog's Avatar
Baildog Baildog is offline
I've got a gun too, mf'er
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Moon Base Alpha
Posts: 3,301
If he loses it that bad in a public setting, and on video, then you can guarantee he is far worse in private.
Temperamentally unsuited for the job; needs to be unemployed yesterday.
__________________
"If you set out to take Vienna...take Vienna"
- Napoleon
"If you want to be free...then you can't be dumb"
- Bootsy Collins
"If you don't like freedom, for heaven's sake, pack your bags and leave"
- Rotterdam Mayor Ahmed Aboutaleb
"I appeal to all our citizens, no matter from what land their forefathers came, to keep this ever in mind, and to shun with scorn and contempt the sinister intriguers and mischief-makers who would seek to divide them along lines of creed, or birthplace or of national origin."
- Teddy Roosevelt
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 1 September 2017, 20:55
8654maine 8654maine is online now
Another pool cleaner
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 3,925
Good to hear the opinions of PO's here.

I just can't see a scenario for this nurse to draw blood without medical necessity.

At our place, the LEO's have a person to draw forensic blood or subpoena for records.

They have been very reasonable when I tell them we will not draw any blood test that is not medically necessary. They know I'd advocate for them, if they are incapacitated.

I realize tempers flare.

What pisses me off is the other chickenshit cops standing by.

If a doc or nurse was compromising patient safety, my staff knows I would rectify that shit pronto.

That's what public confidence is.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 1 September 2017, 20:57
Gsniper Gsniper is online now
Authorized Personnel
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,293
Looks to me like he just tried to big dick her and she pulled his punk card. No way this ends well.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Our new posting rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 18:34.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Socnet.com All Rights Reserved
SOCNET