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Old 9 November 2018, 08:34
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Old 9 November 2018, 13:46
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Hard to imagine how light damage caused the Frigate to possibly sink.
I would think a ship like this would have advanced water tight holds to prevent this.
Water tight hls only work if they are closed.
They were almost home, so I suspect they were open, and most of the crew awake getting ready to unass the ship.
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Old 9 November 2018, 14:57
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This is what happens when you quit using steel armor plate at the water line and only use cheap aluminum hulls and superstructures......
Yep, look at pictures of the damage some WW2 ships took. I don't think a modern warship could take that kind of damage.
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Old 10 November 2018, 17:10
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It's not sunk. It's just pining for the fjords.


We used to call that a mission kill.

If you must scrimp so much on the budget to have a non-redundant engineering plant and an aluminum hull on something that isn't a minesweeper, what are the odds of having money in the budget to fix that level of damage?
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Old 10 November 2018, 21:00
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According to google; ' The welded steel, 132m monohull has 13 watertight compartments for enhanced survivability.'
Norway purchased 5 Nansen class Frigates from Spain for USD $2.54 billion. Now they have 4.
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Old 12 November 2018, 08:11
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Looks bad.

https://thebarentsobserver.com/sites...?itok=1ERYyLqr

https://thebarentsobserver.com/sites...?itok=Lk0meJiP
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Old 12 November 2018, 09:04
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Video of the AIS data...looks like the frigate turned his on after the collision.
https://gcaptain.com/video-ais-anima...egian-frigate/
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Old 12 November 2018, 13:43
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They were in radio contact at least a minute prior.
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Old 13 November 2018, 07:21
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The Norwegian crew look to have showed their ass, their damage control was a farce.

That ship is a complete write off, it seems like these people didn't even try. Shameful, actually. S/F....Ken M

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Old 13 November 2018, 07:38
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Wow, it fully sank. I thought they ran it aground?

I figured they would have some great big pumps brought in to keep it afloat.
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Old 13 November 2018, 08:14
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Fjords are steep banked, if they didn't stop the inflow of water(or lash it to shore or something), it'll slide right down. Building internal bulkheads, cribbing, pumping, all would have been sound practice. This just seems like assclownery.

Maybe they spent all the $ on welfare payouts? S/F....Ken M
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Old 13 November 2018, 09:42
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Rear Adm. Nils Andreas Stensoenes, the head of Norway's navy, said several of the wires used to stabilize the KNM Helge Instad snapped Tuesday, causing the vessel to sink further into the fjord.
I don't understand how several wires snap before anyone can do anything to help stabilize the vessel more.

I don't know much about ship salvaging techniques, especially for a ship taking on so much water in somewhat (not very) steep terrain, but agree, this is a disgrace.
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