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Old 9 May 2013, 03:50
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I'll be picking up some cinder blocks this weekend, along with some top soil. There is a dairy farm or feed lot or something that smells of bullshit just a couple miles from the house, so I'll see what I can get there.

It's weird living in a city, where I have to do all this. I grew up in Mississippi, where a "garden," was what put vegetables on the table, and it was fertilized with shit from our own horses.
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Old 9 May 2013, 04:51
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We have orange and pink grapefruit trees. Great picking them and eating
the same day.

Daughters doing raised bed organic this year for veggies.
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Old 9 May 2013, 08:28
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I have a dumb question - isn't all gardening organic?

Or does that mean no pesticides or other chemicals?
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Old 9 May 2013, 08:31
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I'll be picking up some cinder blocks this weekend, along with some top soil. There is a dairy farm or feed lot or something that smells of bullshit just a couple miles from the house, so I'll see what I can get there.

It's weird living in a city, where I have to do all this. I grew up in Mississippi, where a "garden," was what put vegetables on the table, and it was fertilized with shit from our own horses.
I really need to wear my glasses more... I thought you posted you got the fertilizer from your "house"...
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Old 9 May 2013, 08:39
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I have a dumb question - isn't all gardening organic?

Or does that mean no pesticides or other chemicals?
Yeah, no chemicals. I chem the shit out of my veggies though. I'd like to have a compost heap but it's an unrealistic goal right now.
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Old 9 May 2013, 11:13
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here's a pic of the concrete raised bed I will be using- as soon as I fill it with horseshit

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Old 10 May 2013, 17:18
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^^ That looks far too nice to use as a raised bed. I say add a spit and use it as an organic pig roaster.

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Old 10 May 2013, 19:17
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My wife and I have had organic gardens for years. This year we have 15 tomato plants with 9 varieties, 16 pepper plants with 7 varieties, horseradish, rhubarb, several types of lettuce, kale, spinach, green beans, lima beans, kohlrabie, and sugar snap peas. We also like to feed the birds so I don't use pesticides or herbicides that will get into our garden. The birds help to control the insects.

We also keep 20 free range hens which help with insect control. We keep our vegetable garden fenced to keep the hens out but the rooster hops the fence and will eat worms and bugs out of the garden. I'll do hand to hand combat with the Japanese beetles if they get into my roses and toss them into the little fish pond that we built by the patio.

All in all, we have very little insects to deal with because of the balance we keep. As far as weeds go, I just pull them by hand or hoe them out.
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Old 11 May 2013, 05:59
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Don't buy into the story that geese will eat the insects in your gardens.
I tried that one year.
A) The geese terrorized my wife and kids.
B) The geese ran like crazy when they saw ME (I take no shit from birds).
C) They eat your precious flowers.
D) They ignore you when you threaten to kill them for ruining your garden.
E) No matter that they LOOK fat; if you kill them before Christmas-time, for above-mentioned cause, you will find little more than feathers and bone.
(I can confirm all of the above).
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Old 11 May 2013, 07:05
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I go to North Dakota pheasant hunting every fall, they call geese "sky carp".
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Old 11 May 2013, 07:27
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Agree on chickens and pest control.
Finally got our a while ago after our oldest had a pretty bad case of Lyme dz.

Chicken poo does wonders in the garden, as well.
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Old 11 May 2013, 07:45
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Don't buy into the story that geese will eat the insects in your gardens.
I tried that one year.
A) The geese terrorized my wife and kids.
B) The geese ran like crazy when they saw ME (I take no shit from birds).
C) They eat your precious flowers.
D) They ignore you when you threaten to kill them for ruining your garden.
E) No matter that they LOOK fat; if you kill them before Christmas-time, for above-mentioned cause, you will find little more than feathers and bone.
(I can confirm all of the above).
Ok, now that information is waaay funny. Geese around here are terrorized by SIL's Border Collie. Funny as all hell when the dog lays in the bushes waiting for the flea infested geese to land in the field next to her house. she will kill one or two then just chase the others around for laughs.

Back to growing stuff. Right now my house looks like a green forrest with all the tomato plants I have growing (up to 36, I have no idea why I have that many). I have had a small outbreak of aphids on a few of the plants. I am using this soap/"natural" insecticide on them. Working ok but I have to spray two or three times a week to keep up with them. I read somewhere that the Miricle Grow I use for fertilizer has a lot of nitrogen in it and the aphids love it.... Anyone else experience this?
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Old 11 May 2013, 17:22
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I read somewhere that the Miricle Grow I use for fertilizer has a lot of nitrogen in it and the aphids love it.... Anyone else experience this?
Aphids thrive when plant sap is high in nitrogen. Have you thought about bringing in some ladybugs?

And geese are pure evil. What other bird hisses, FFS?
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Old 11 May 2013, 19:57
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Aphids thrive when plant sap is high in nitrogen. Have you thought about bringing in some ladybugs?

And geese are pure evil. What other bird hisses, FFS?
My first wife

I would not know where to get them except in the middle of the summer.
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Old 11 May 2013, 21:33
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I bought this 18 acres when I was an E3 in 1986. Instead of the Mustang or the crotch rocket, I bought dirt. Sure am glad I did it now. After my 20 I moved out here and went feral.
I didn't waste any money as a young Marine but I sure as hell wished I had bought land back then (mid 80's). I am looking now and and it is near impossible to find a descent 5-10 acres the way I want it even with 50 grand cash in hand.
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Old 12 May 2013, 09:15
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I would not know where to get them except in the middle of the summer.
I believe that LadyBugs are available at most times, these days.
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Old 12 May 2013, 11:40
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I believe that LadyBugs are available at most times, these days.
Mmmm, I just looked at the Commisary...All I saw there was a bunch of ladies spending money

Maybe online?!?
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Old 12 May 2013, 11:56
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Mmmm, I just looked at the Commisary...All I saw there was a bunch of ladies spending money

Maybe online?!?
Mmm....
Yeah, maybe;
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&key...l_5g2av4iw4q_b
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Old 13 May 2013, 10:51
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^^ That looks far too nice to use as a raised bed. I say add a spit and use it as an organic pig roaster.

Nice quality work, Sir. You know, if that whole CSM thing don't work out for you, you have a bright future as a mason.
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Old 13 May 2013, 12:27
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I've been setting up another aquaponic system for growing veggies and tilapia this month. It's pretty easy,it uses gravity, one pump and fish food.


Course the geek in me decided that I needed to wire in some 18B20 temperature sensors and report it out to the internet...I have plans for more sensors like humidity, water flow and possibly dissolved oxygen and such...if I can find a great deal on the sensors. Course it's just breadboarded now...going to make/get a prototype board to clean it up.



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