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Old 11 May 2013, 13:42
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We would have a ton of foreign troops come thru Leapfest. We always JM'd them. Some of them were pretty scary. Like the Saudis one year when the JM told them to take off the saftey straps and the thought it ment go..... They went out at about 500' from a UH-1H... Pretty funny to see. None of them got hurt.
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Old 11 May 2013, 13:44
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Damn. That is an interesting situation/topic. When JM'ing, I only had to JM -1Bs and XXs, I never dealt with anything else.

When you SF dudes JM foreign troops, are you doing a fam workshop on their rigs before JM'ing, or do you leave JMPIs to the foreign JMs?
For static line, we don't do a ground course, we leave JMPI's to the HN JM's, but our riggers look at their equipment. If they are jumping our stuff, we JM them.
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Old 12 May 2013, 00:45
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Could prop blast/airflow get under the flap and activate it?
Holy shit yes. Ask the guys going thru JM with those rigs how many get popped. From what I understand the handles are zip tied closed for the JMPI circles.

Those red handles are WICKED touchy.
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Old 13 May 2013, 16:48
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Could prop blast/airflow get under the flap and activate it?
I Highly doubt it. They have tuck tabs on the top, bottom, and sides.
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Old 13 May 2013, 20:23
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I Highly doubt it. They have tuck tabs on the top, bottom, and sides.
I respectfully disagree, the top/bottom tuck tabs really don't retain the ripcord at all as far as I see, heck you untuck them for JMPI. The two side tuck tabs are sometimes barely holding on, you have to be very careful removing the top/bottom tuck tabs to prep for JMPI to not deploy it right there...the handle is wired in place for JM School.

...a 130 knot wind hitting the reserve from the side would only need exert 14 pounds of pressure, the minimum pull weight the reserve needs to pass serviceability inspections, to deploy.

IMO, it could easily have been a result of him kneeling and contorting the reserve just right to result in his reverse fulton extraction.
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Old 14 May 2013, 15:25
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I respectfully disagree, the top/bottom tuck tabs really don't retain the ripcord at all as far as I see, heck you untuck them for JMPI. The two side tuck tabs are sometimes barely holding on, you have to be very careful removing the top/bottom tuck tabs to prep for JMPI to not deploy it right there...the handle is wired in place for JM School.

...a 130 knot wind hitting the reserve from the side would only need exert 14 pounds of pressure, the minimum pull weight the reserve needs to pass serviceability inspections, to deploy.

IMO, it could easily have been a result of him kneeling and contorting the reserve just right to result in his reverse fulton extraction.


I agree with your points. All my experience is with fairly new reserves. I've never had an issue with the side tuck tabs, but you do have to be careful with the top and bottoms.

I don't remember our reserves being wired at the Benning SLJM course but they could have been.
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Old 14 May 2013, 16:03
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It is not a "freefall" chute. You can see the static line and the safety holding it plus they look different. I wonder if his main did deploy, though? You can't tell from the video.
You must have mistaken my comment- I was quoting The91Bravo...
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Old 14 May 2013, 16:12
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Those are DEFINITELY different pack trays and rip cord grips than the original MERP; it was simply a t-10 reserve with the rip cord grip on top.

As for the foreign troops JM- the Hondurans, El Sals, and Guatemalans all used T-10/ -1B One time we had a guy (Honduran) show up with a 'dial of death' and I was the only JM that had ever jumped or JMPI'd one - reason?

It was the only harness small enough to fit him- I had to get on my knees to JMPI this dude...
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Old 14 May 2013, 16:42
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....I had to get on my knees to JMPI this dude...
So that's what they call fellatio in the Army....
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Old 14 May 2013, 17:10
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BWAAAHAAAHAAA! Good one! Guess we could call it " meet your bed mate for this cruise, sailors!
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Old 14 May 2013, 22:07
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I knew that was imminent... and I knew WHO would probably make the comment
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Old 15 May 2013, 05:44
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I don't remember our reserves being wired at the Benning SLJM course but they could have been.
Yeah, I'm sure it varies, that's just what I saw the two times we borrowed rigs from the USASOC JM Course to run JM Refresher for our unit.
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Old 18 May 2013, 09:40
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So, we jumped 100 mains Thursday. 27 foreigners and 60+ students...5 reserves busted. All said it occurred after landing and before releasing a riser as they were being drug. I didn't ask how many were foreigners and how many students.
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Old 18 May 2013, 09:55
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For the old guys who only remember the good old T-10 Reserve, here is a pic of the underside of the rip cord assembly showing the two side tuck tabs...



And this shows the pocket the side tuck tab goes into, one on each side. The two curved pins are routed through two pack closing ties that go through the two silver grommets you can just see, and this holds the entire assembly closed. To me its easy to see how it can be so "touchy."

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Old 18 May 2013, 10:02
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And finally a shot of one side of the pack tray and a side tuck tab (mostly) in its pocket, again you can see the two grommets and the top and bottom curved pins...

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Old 18 May 2013, 10:27
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This old guy thanks you. I still need to, actually, look at one to see how it operates.
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Old 18 May 2013, 10:53
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Wow, that is a big change. Not so sure that the velcro fills me with confidence. Thank you. I originally learned on the dial of death rigs and the T-10(?) reserve.
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Old 18 May 2013, 11:15
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I think we were transitioning from silk in 1965!
Between military and civilian jumping,
I think I've spent HOURS with my hand over the reserve ripcord.
Hell, I just saw my jump school photo (black & white, of course);
my hand is over the handle!
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Old 18 May 2013, 11:23
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Wow, that is a big change. Not so sure that the velcro fills me with confidence. Thank you. I originally learned on the dial of death rigs and the T-10(?) reserve.
There actually is no Velcro, just the tuck tabs which are very stiff cotton duck (?), going into the pockets, coupled with the pack closing ties going through the grommets in the side/top/bottom panels and the two curved pins going through the closing ties. We jump again Friday night, I'll try and get a better pic of the thing assembled but showing how its all held together.
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Old 18 May 2013, 11:25
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I think I've spent HOURS with my hand over the reserve ripcord.
Me too! and since this vid (op) came out, we haven't had to tell the Studs quite as much to cover theirs up, a picture being worth a thousand words!
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