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Old 21 June 2018, 20:27
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I remember reading about V.A.P. and his struggle.

I pray he rests in peace, and his friends and family understand his decision.
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Old 21 June 2018, 22:53
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Bloody hell. Grace and peace and strength to his family, friends, and colleagues.
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Old 21 June 2018, 23:01
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RIP Travis.
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Old 22 June 2018, 00:51
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V.A.P. actually reached out for help in this very thread!
And apart from a few "I'm with you bro's" he didn't get the help he needed. Just emphasises the fact that the issue is more complex than what a thread such as this, in its current form, can solve and a re-think is required if you truly want to help your buddies in need. A Type A vet is not going to plead.
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Old 22 June 2018, 03:03
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Old 22 June 2018, 08:57
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We need to go to them. Understanding the needed resources and difficulty in determining someone's actual mental state is hard to do on line. You also run the risk of ruining virtual and / or actual friendships if you are wrong. Sometimes you may seem like chicken little.

I'm sorry V.A.P. Hopefully you have found your peace.
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Old 22 June 2018, 18:06
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Damn, RIP.
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Old 22 June 2018, 20:57
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V.A.P. actually reached out for help in this very thread!
And apart from a few "I'm with you bro's" he didn't get the help he needed. Just emphasises the fact that the issue is more complex than what a thread such as this, in its current form, can solve and a re-think is required if you truly want to help your buddies in need. A Type A vet is not going to plead.
I don't know how many may have reached out to him...I did, he did not respond. Below is what I sent him.



Damn brother.. I am really sorry to hear this.

I think there are no really good, quick answers. You need to focus on keeping yourself afloat. You need to come through this for yourself and your daughter. She needs a Father, she always will, you need to be there for her.

Things will get better.

My phone number 319 857 ####.

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Old 23 June 2018, 07:57
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V.A.P. actually reached out for help in this very thread!
And apart from a few "I'm with you bro's" he didn't get the help he needed. Just emphasises the fact that the issue is more complex than what a thread such as this, in its current form, can solve and a re-think is required if you truly want to help your buddies in need. A Type A vet is not going to plead.
I reject your premise. First of all this thread is directed at those type A vets, not at the people who would offer help. Secondly, it's clear members were in closer touch than how you characterize it. Thirdly, no one could foresee what would happen to his daighter which appears to have re-triggered the issues that had been tamped down.
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Old 23 June 2018, 09:06
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I agree with SB.

We can reach out and offer assistance-we can stay in touch-we can be available-but we can't fix other people. And the hurting person also has to be willing to accept offers to connect.

I did a quick search for V.A.P.'s posts and it looked like he said he was getting help. Subsequent posts on other threads up to May just seem normal-posting about things like sports tickets.

The fact remains we can help with connection, we can help with resources, we can be friends and partners on the journey, but we aren't capable of "fixing" anyone.
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Old 23 June 2018, 15:10
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I agree with SB.

We can reach out and offer assistance-we can stay in touch-we can be available-but we can't fix other people. And the hurting person also has to be willing to accept offers to connect.

I did a quick search for V.A.P.'s posts and it looked like he said he was getting help. Subsequent posts on other threads up to May just seem normal-posting about things like sports tickets.

The fact remains we can help with connection, we can help with resources, we can be friends and partners on the journey, but we aren't capable of "fixing" anyone.

Well said.
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Old 23 June 2018, 15:28
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I haven't seen the movie and probably won't but a couple of days ago I read the book Thank You For Your Service. I don't know any of the people described in the book, and I never visited Iraq or Afghanistan, but it was haunting to me for two reasons. First, one of the widows in the book seemed like a direct parallel to how I think my own wife would have behaved. Second, some of the symptoms the guys in the book demonstrated were way too personally recognizable and made me seriously rethink some things. My bad days in uniform were not remotely combat-related, usually being the result of catastrophic equipment failures, remarkably bad decisions by those around me, or just randomly being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I knew that memory plays tricks and dreams are annoying, but I had not previously connected those past events with slowly increasing memory problems (I had just assumed that was a product of the aging process) and sleeplessness. I swallowed my pride and had a long talk with my wife about it, and it turns out that she is even smarter and more perceptive than my dumb butt had previously realized. I'm blessed to have her.
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Old 23 June 2018, 20:45
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