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Old 5 January 2018, 11:03
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The Shockwave is classified as a firearm. With mini-shells it is accurate and easy to do follow up shots. As others have posted one needs to train with it. I call it my wheelchair gun lol. I do recommend an OpSol mini-shell adapter. They are now available in 20ga.

I have short arms so I can do a high tuck. Or I will go to eye level and "stretch" it for better accuracy. The key is to practice.
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Old 9 January 2018, 11:54
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I had a trusty 870 that I used on my Agency's tac team, worked well for a short while until we started hitting more and more properties that had trailers in the back. Small one bedroom campers that meth heads favor to utilize. Even houses in which clutter or low grade hoarding was found. I found the KSG worked a lot better for me in confined spaces that fed into deep corners.

But as with anything, its operator preference. As long as you can do what you need to do effectively and safely...
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Old 22 January 2018, 19:11
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So I ended up not getting anything mostly because there is nowhere outside near me that I could really use a shotgun so it would just sit in the closet. There are skeet and trap ranges but I want to shoot bowling pins and soda cans, you know make a mess fun stuff and you can only do that on private property which I dont have access to. Anyway I was at the local gun shop yesterday and they have one of those 870 Shockwaves for $450 and I damn near walked out with it.
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Anyway I was at the local gun shop yesterday and they have one of those 870 Shockwaves for $450 and I damn near walked out with it.
Ouch...they are going for $375 where I live!
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Old 22 January 2018, 19:14
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Ouch...they are going for $375 where I live!
Maybe you need to buy one and bring it with you.
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I'm probably going to buy one sooner or later, just can't decide if I want the 870 or the 590...
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I'm probably going to buy one sooner or later, just can't decide if I want the 870 or the 590...
I always lean to the 870 because the safety is easier to articulate if you do have a pistol grip on it over the tang safety of the 590.

ETA: but with that shockwave grip that probably isnt an issue.
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ETA: but with that shockwave grip that probably isnt an issue.
That's my thinking, and I'm a lefty, anyways.
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That's my thinking, and I'm a lefty, anyways.
Just checked and the 870 5 round capacity and the 590 is 6, so maybe its 590 for the win.
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Just checked and the 870 5 round capacity and the 590 is 6, so maybe its 590 for the win.
Or...you just dig a little deeper into yer pocket, and buy a Nighthawk Tomahawk...also not a NFA item...
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Or...you just dig a little deeper into yer pocket, and buy a Nighthawk Tomahawk...also not a NFA item...
A "little" deeper? How about like $1k more
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A "little" deeper? How about like $1k more
Suarez sells a stakeout for like $900.

I wouldn't pay more than $400 for the Rem or Mossy.
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Just checked and the 870 5 round capacity and the 590 is 6, so maybe its 590 for the win.
The 590 has the ability to use mini-shells for 8+1.
Usually roll with a cut-shell in chamber mini-shells in the mag.
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Old 22 January 2018, 21:04
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I bought the Rem Tac-14. With a scattergun tech +1 mag extension it's just slightly longer (maybe an 1/8" ?) than the barrel. I keep calling it the .22 of shotguns, because I want to shoot EVERYTHING with it.. like a kid! It's crazy handy.. I fired some 3" steel duck loads out of it to test controllability.. It's easy.. and has a nice basketball sized fireball at dusk!

That and a Vang Comp big safety, an SKD Velcro side saddle and a TLR-1 attached to the fore grip.. and we hang out a lot.. Definitely a niche gun.. But lots of fun.

Oh and for the Nighthawk.. There is a lot of truth to the Shockwave Raptor grip. Someone taught me with vertical pistol grip shotguns to give a slight forward movement toward the target to counter some of the recoil. The vert grip as anyone knows who shot one is rough in the hand. The raptor doesn't force the brunt into your palm. it almost acts like the KRISS in that the recoil force cams downward.. Kinda hard to explain until you shoot it.

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I bought the Rem Tac-14. With a scattergun tech +1 mag extension it's just slightly longer (maybe an 1/8" ?) than the barrel. .

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I find the Raptor grip "Pushes" unlike the pistol grip which is more of a "Snap". Best example that comes to mind is recoil of a revolver vs semi-auto.
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Old 23 January 2018, 20:15
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I bought the Rem Tac-14. With a scattergun tech +1 mag extension it's just slightly longer (maybe an 1/8" ?) than the barrel. I keep calling it the .22 of shotguns, because I want to shoot EVERYTHING with it.. like a kid! It's crazy handy.. I fired some 3" steel duck loads out of it to test controllability.. It's easy.. and has a nice basketball sized fireball at dusk!

That and a Vang Comp big safety, an SKD Velcro side saddle and a TLR-1 attached to the fore grip.. and we hang out a lot.. Definitely a niche gun.. But lots of fun.

Oh and for the Nighthawk.. There is a lot of truth to the Shockwave Raptor grip. Someone taught me with vertical pistol grip shotguns to give a slight forward movement toward the target to counter some of the recoil. The vert grip as anyone knows who shot one is rough in the hand. The raptor doesn't force the brunt into your palm. it almost acts like the KRISS in that the recoil force cams downward.. Kinda hard to explain until you shoot it.
Let me know how the TLR-1 does after a few hundred grown up rounds of anything. I continue to break these lights and have stopped buying them as a result. I just bought a few APL-C lights now that Surefire went full retard and charges $300 for the new version of the XC-1.
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Here you go..

TFG, will do.. no issues yet. When did you buy yours? I wonder if QA has gone down.
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Here you go..
Thanks, I think this just made the short list.
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