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Old 11 September 2018, 00:43
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Marlin, when taken over by the Freedom Group, took a steep decline in quality. There was a period where they were getting better, but anecdotally on the owners' forums, they went downhill again.

If you want to read up on it, google "remlin" - that's the derogatory nickname given to the post JM stamped Freedom Group Marlins.
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Old 11 September 2018, 11:27
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Didn't see if anyone has mentioned Browning's BLR line?
Spendy but an excellent lever action and many cals from varmint to big-game. Some folks are partial to the older line; I'm not crazy about the lacquer'd stock finish of the new models but my 7-08 takedown is a beautiful rifle to take into the field.
I've been tempted by several old steel .358s but much prefer a PG stock and the old versions were just straight, not as attractive or as comfortable to me.

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Old 11 September 2018, 11:46
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For me the 45-70 is going to be too much recoil, and everyone has a 30-30. Some old cartridge that components can still be purchased (I reload). I am thinking lever action in a traditional "western" cartridge along the lines of:

44-40
38-40
32-20
38-55
25-20

etc.

I am looking at Pedersoli and Cimmaron for rifles.

Your thoughts?
You can find decent cowboy load .44/40 ammo on-line. A Model 73' from Uberti would serve you well.
You could also buy a "Japanese Winchester" from Miroku - I have a Winchester/Miroku '66 and its shoots great.
I am looking at a color case hardened '73 Sporter model with an octagon barrel - for about 1700 bucks as a Christmas gun. 1000 rounds of 200gr round nose flat point will set you back about 650 bucks.
Then you can reload them for a lot cheaper...

I'm really looking hard at one of those two guns.
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Old 11 September 2018, 11:57
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I have a chance to pick up a Win. 94 XTR Big Bore in 375 Win. Unfired for $700.

The ammo is hard to find and so is brass. But, it is a balance of what I want.

Not a plinking round, but should be a good starter lever gun.

Your thoughts?
The gun is nice. The ammo availability/cost will suck.

You don't sound like a reloader so your next post will be in my 'Trap of the odd rounds' thread.

There may be some special limited runs of factory ammo every two years or so, but even fired brass is high and hard to find compared to other rounds.
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Old 11 September 2018, 12:21
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Remlins suck!
Concur. There are plenty of used Marlins out there, don't buy any Marlins that are "post-JM."
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Old 11 September 2018, 14:06
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Ok, so no new Marlins.

I do reload but it’s limited to the 300WM, 257WBY, 6.5CM, and the 243. Nothing straightwalled and no pistol.

I am finding that XTR to be sexy. But, a BL-22 from Browning seems simple and fun.
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Old 11 September 2018, 17:16
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I have a chance to pick up a Win. 94 XTR Big Bore in 375 Win. Unfired for $700.

The ammo is hard to find and so is brass. But, it is a balance of what I want.

Not a plinking round, but should be a good starter lever gun.

Your thoughts?
Decided against Marlin, the 45/70 is going to kill me. But, the 375WIN is just right. Ammo is made by a few makers but pricey.

Talked with the guy, it is new, unfired and I picked it up for $625.

The receiver is stronger, extra steel added to the rear of the receiver on the Big Bore, finish and wood is nicer and this is one of the older top eject models.

I had to get it.
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Old 11 September 2018, 18:56
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It'll work, get dies, and horde brass and you'll be fine. A good 250'ish grain weight ogival flatpoint mold would be good too. S/F....Ken M
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Old 11 September 2018, 20:08
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Natchez had Win. 375 brass in stock. So, for 80 bucks 100 pieces of impossible to find brass just waiting. That’s all I can afford right now.

https://www.natchezss.com/winchester...inchester.html
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Old 11 September 2018, 21:09
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That's a nice Winchester. I like .375 Winchester, "all around" caliber.

You can fire 38-55 ammunition from Buffalo Bore in your .375 Winchester. It ain't cheap, but it's good ammo.
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The 375 Win isn't a softie on the shoulder either. Is it? Never shot one but aways thought it would be a good brush gun.

Nice purchase?
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Yep. I'd buy that! Nice.
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Old 11 September 2018, 21:38
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From what I have learned the 375WIN is the smokeless/modern version of the 38-55. Pressures around 55K instead of 20K and the 375 brass is thicker internal.

I have found some load data driving a 250gr slug around 2000FPS. Should work just fine for deer, Elk, Moose, Black Bears.

It falls right between the 30-30 and 45-70.

Based on what I have gleaned from the interwebz.

Not sure about recoil.
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Not sure about recoil.
ChuckHawks.com will give you the numbers of how it stacks up against other calibers...or you could just, you know...go to the range.
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This 32 20 Winchester just came up for sale local to me. Not mine, dont know the guy. Looks good to be made in 1919.

www dot carolinafirearmsforum dot com/index.php?threads/winchester-32-20.31788/#post-543501
I saw that too, the price seems about $300 too much to me.

I have been shooting and reloading the 45/70 for 30 years. It is one of the most versatile rounds you can get into. Factory loads are mild to wild. With reloading and old manuals, I have gotten a 180gr collar button down to 500fps and it's accurate. With modern data I have pushed my marlin to the limit. I'm not into the wild loads anymore, my hunting rounds are 350gr cast from an NOE mold and only fly about 1200fps. It passes through anything it hits and makes a nice hole on both sides. The collar buttons at 500fps are my squirrel hunting loads.
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Natchez had Win. 375 brass in stock. So, for 80 bucks 100 pieces of impossible to find brass just waiting. Thatís all I can afford right now.

https://www.natchezss.com/winchester...inchester.html
I just bought the last two bags, so I have 200 pieces of rare and elusive brass on the way. I found more money.

I tried to buy 3.
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I just bought the last two bags, so I have 200 pieces of rare and elusive brass on the way. I found more money.

I tried to buy 3.
You REALLY have to search for this stuff. The very obscure web stores had some here and there and bought all I could find over the last few days. About 36 bucks per bag.

7bags of new Winchester brass. I figure 350 pieces of brass will last till I am gone.
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That's plenty, don't want to find you dead under a collapsed closet full of obsolete brass. S/F....Ken M
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That's plenty, don't want to find you dead under a collapsed closet full of obsolete brass. S/F....Ken M
Well, if you decide you have to have a 375, I know where you can get brass.
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