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Old 3 May 2018, 15:47
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Report said one of the oldest C-130s still flying. ?
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Old 3 May 2018, 18:13
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Puerto Rico Air Guard plane crash victims identified
Puerto Rico National Guard / Published May 03, 2018







SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AFNS) -- The Puerto Rico National Guard has released the names of the victims of the WC-130 Hercules aircraft accident, which occurred May 2, 2018, near Hilton Head Airport in Savannah, Georgia.

The names of the nine fallen Airmen are:

Maj. José R. Román Rosado – Pilot – 18 years of service - from Manati, PR. He is survived by his wife and two sons.

Maj. Carlos Pérez Serra – Navigator – 23 years of service - from Canóvanas, PR. He is survived by his wife, two sons and daughter.

1st Lt. David Albandoz – Co-Pilot – 16 years of service - from PR, recently residing in Madison, Alabama. He is survived by his wife and daughter.

Senior Master Sgt. Jan Paravisini – Mechanic – 21 years of service - from Canóvanas, PR. He is survived by two daughters and son.

Master Sgt. Jean Audriffred – 16 years of service - from Carolina, PR. He is survived by his wife and two sons.

Master Sgt. Mario Braña – Flight Engineer – 17 years of service - from Bayamón, PR. He is survived by his mother and daughter.

Master Sgt. Víctor Colón – 22 years of service - from Santa Isabel, PR. He is survived by his wife and two daughters.

Master Sgt. Eric Circuns – Loadmaster – 31 years of service - from Rio Grande, PR. He is survived by his wife, two step-daughters and son.

Senior Airman Roberto Espada– three years of service - from Salinas, PR. He is survived by his grandmother.

The Puerto Rico National Guard will continue to support the families for as long it takes.

“Taking care of our fallen Airmen’s families and loved ones is our top priority,” said the adjutant general of Puerto Rico, Brig. Gen. Isabelo Rivera. “We are fully supporting them and providing all the assistance and resources of the Puerto Rico National Guard during this difficult moment.”
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Old 3 May 2018, 18:50
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R.I.P. Gentlemen. May the families find solace.
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Old 3 May 2018, 21:20
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Old 4 May 2018, 17:34
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Old 5 May 2018, 06:53
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A very sad, horrific end. I pray for some peace in the future for their families.
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Old 5 May 2018, 08:08
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Hard video to watch.
I wonder if they stalled it?

I was thinking the same thing.
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I have several acquaintances that were mere seconds away from being squashed like a bug by the plane. In different vehicles. That highway should have been full with bumper to bumper traffic. And it was near lunchtime.

That highway lies between the airport and the seaport, and is one of 4 major arteries out of Savannah. To say it has greatly fucked up traffic around here on this side of the county would be an understatement. Estimated that it will be a month before they reopen the road. Not due to damage to road, but due to the investigation. This investigation is only being performed by the AF, so, the civvy heads are a little miffed, but theyll get over it.
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AIB was released, another accident that shouldn't have happened.

Wing CC and CV were not available when the team did the on-base interviews.

Very hard read.
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Old 10 November 2018, 21:50
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AIB was released, another accident that shouldn't have happened.

Wing CC and CV were not available when the team did the on-base interviews.

Very hard read.
Report here:

https://media.defense.gov/2018/Nov/0...0REPORT.PDF%20
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Old 10 November 2018, 22:29
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Da fuck? Left rudder input and banked into the inoperative engine? Did I read that correct?

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Additionally, MP1 banked left into the inoperative engine, continued to climb, and varied left and right rudder inputs. At an altitude of approximately 900 feet mean sea level and 131 knots indicated air speed, MP1 input over nine degrees of left rudder, the MA skidded left, the left wing stalled, and the MA departed controlled flight and impacted the terrain on Georgia State Highway 21.
Tough read is right.
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Multiple (human) factors: Crew, maintainers, morale. The failure of No. 1 engine was human factor as well. RIP to the lost Airmen.
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Old 11 November 2018, 19:12
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Key takeaways:


The aircraft lost thrust/power from the #1 engine during takeoff.
They lost power on #1 because the ground crew didn't properly
fix a defect, the maintainers made that part of the investigation easy
by writing up how they were using the improper procedure, with some
of their comments captured on the cockpit voice recorder!*


Then the pilot apparently didn't know what to do, at times
pressing right rudder, then left rudder, then right, then pressed
left rudder into the dead engine in an effort to return to the airfield.
That totally stalled the left wing. The right wing kept lifting.
The aircraft rolled upside down at 660 feet above the ground,
rolling out right side up just as it smacked into the ground.


*The cockpit voice recorder (CVR) records the last 30 minutes of conversation
while the engines are running. It therefore recorded the maintainers
saying things like "that's good enough" and "it's going to the boneyard
[Davis-Mothan AFB] anyway" as they played with the adjustment on the #1 engine
without ever fixing the problem.
They then shut down the engines, preserving their conversations on the CVR.
Since the aircraft crashed with less that 30 minutes of additional engine
running time, the CVR captured the last few minutes of the maintainers
and all of the very brief flight.
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Old 11 November 2018, 19:41
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I can summarize the 60 page report into a simple paragraph:

The crash was caused by human factors and mechanical failure. The maintainers didn’t give a fuck, because the bird was going to the boneyard. The pilot in command was lacking in recurrent training, because the squadron morale, and management, was sucking hind tit in the Wing. A combination of all of the above led to engine #1 half-assing it down the runway, and the pilot threw the aircraft into a cross-control stall....killing everyone onboard.

This is an example of how shit leadership, lack of funding and slack assed maintenance breaks things.
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I can summarize the 60 page report into a simple paragraph:

The crash was caused by human factors and mechanical failure. The maintainers didn’t give a fuck, because the bird was going to the boneyard. The pilot in command was lacking in recurrent training, because the squadron morale, and management, was sucking hind tit in the Wing. A combination of all of the above led to engine #1 half-assing it down the runway, and the pilot threw the aircraft into a cross-control stall....killing everyone onboard.

This is an example of how shit leadership, lack of funding and slack assed maintenance breaks things.
As usual, about 10 or 15 big red flags, and proper action on any one of them would have prevented this.

Not speaking ill of the dead, most pilots who are being honest will tell you they have had moments of "man that was really not a good idea." Hopefully the experience from surviving those and reading about others' mistakes informs your future actions and prevents stuff like this. Sad.
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Old 11 November 2018, 22:26
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Well. That report was a fucking disaster.
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