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Well, we all have to start somewhere.
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se -- if you're an officer, then the common thinking is that you are educated and a trained decision maker. As such, take a step back and realize that some of your posts are simply digging holes -- like the one above.
You received an answer(s), it/they was sincere, and you could even find more sincere answers awaiting you if you cease the hole digging. OK, the hole digging won't change the sincerity of the answers, but it might change the flavor....
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Just curious, are you male or female?
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I'm going to guess that most ambassadors couldn't even explain the difference between a Ranger Tab and an EGA, nor do they care. In most cases, you're just another guy in funny clothes interfering with their "diplomacy". Or you're a servant there to fix things for them so they can get back to "diplomacy".
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Re: Ambassadors
Chances of a CA bubba actually briefing an Ambassador: Slim to nearly zilch. If you're a COL, then your chances are better. As a bubba... LOL. I did brief a DAO on a couple of occasions, in a tiny embassy (Suriname), and got to meet the assistant to the Ambassador, so maybe that counted? Actual Embassies (note the big E) with layers on layers of staff, and an Army puke of almost any flavor is just that... a bag of puke... to be avoided at all costs. ETA: That's my experience after being a CA officer from 92 - 09. Many, many deployments, and from what I've seen, DoS folk are generally antimatter to DoD. The oppose us like matching poles of a magnet.
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Just try to focus on what you need to do to not be a burden to the SF teams in the country. That is all.
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Man, you can't beat that Mormon Mafia. Those bastards are dug in like Alabama ticks. But I will say this, they love America.
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I never met a Mormon until I got to DLI. Boy did I learn quick. A good quarter of the 229th at that time was from the Mormon Militia. Good folks.
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"The nice thing about Twitter, in the old days when I got attacked it would take me years to get even with somebody, now when I’m attacked I can do it instantaneously, and it has a lot of power. You see some genius statements on Twitter. You see some statements coming out which are Ernest Hemingway times two." - The Trumpmeister |
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Gotta learn to ignore the wannabe trolls.
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What now? You find this to be an uncharacteristic statement?
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"The nice thing about Twitter, in the old days when I got attacked it would take me years to get even with somebody, now when I’m attacked I can do it instantaneously, and it has a lot of power. You see some genius statements on Twitter. You see some statements coming out which are Ernest Hemingway times two." - The Trumpmeister |
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I mean it was factual and contained good advice in it as well, but it was still wrapped in an awful package.
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I was just an enlisted guy in a non-high speed role that traveled 250-300 days per year for 4 years and interacted routinely with Embassy mil groups, country team types, and admin folks given that we even drew money from embassies for every mission that we did and settled with the embassy upon return. If you do work end up working with embassy guys, tab or no, they think in terms of "presence" instead of "mission" and they'll frustrate you quickly.
In my experience in the 1990s which is somewhat dated now, we wore suits while onsite as a vistor at most embassies. This could be for any number of reasons but, there is much to the gay/left comment above, and you'll quickly learn State folks don't like uniformed guys running around. I can recall only a few embassies in which we wore uniforms and, in both of those cases, the milgroup had a physically separate facility form the embassy meaning we wore uniforms to the milgroup and suits to the actual embassy. The embassy size and overall importance of your mission will determine who you brief. As an enlisted guy I routinely briefed the milgroup and often the country team but the CTs only in the smaller embassies or more backwater countries. The MILGROUP staff will take care of those briefings in larger embassies. Ambassadors? Not so much particularly if they are political appointees. I think that I briefed ambassadors 3-4 times in 4 years on that job but at least 2 of those were because I was also briefing the President of the host nation involved. So most people had no idea of my background. Again, this wasnt to hide it for some high speed reason, it was because the uniform of the day was a suit. Where tabs will get some level of traction is with the host nation militaries which interestingly you seem to have excluded form your comments. I hardly wore my tab downrange and usually only for briefings with the host nation military. We'd wear suits for briefing host nation civilian orgs again due to the "scary factor" of uniforms.
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In a previous life I spent quite a bit of time briefing DCMs and RSOs in the ME and SE Asia. DOS has a well earned rep in line with everything mentioned above IMO.
They become much easier to work with once you understand what their mission is. And realize that in their world, uniformed people are for guarding gates and opening doors typically. Last edited by DC; 17 December 2015 at 11:46. |
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Considering the content of this conversation an answer to this question could prove interesting...
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I worked for an officer who asked me, in private on multiple occasions, if going to Ranger School would help make the other soldiers respect him. I told him no, but told him that the reasons he was wondering about that (the self-doubt, the misguided thought that respect was based on what you've done and not what you are doing, and the idea that it could be fixed by a tab) were certainly parts of the reason why they didn't respect him.
I would add if the concern is respect from embassy-types then you should ensure that you can handle your liquor (physically and mentally) and do not accidentally throw the remote controller for the Wii into their flat screen. |
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Gents, the OP has not signed in since his last post here.
Maybe he is on vacation.
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