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Old 18 June 2014, 21:32
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Makarov ?

How many here are fans of the Makarov pistol?
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Old 19 June 2014, 01:38
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Meh. My experience is limited to the bravo committee buuuuut if it was all I could get my hands on I guess it would do.
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Old 19 June 2014, 02:50
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Ammo is pretty cheap
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Old 19 June 2014, 03:13
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I used to have one -- until I didn't. Would I buy another one? No.
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Old 19 June 2014, 03:16
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Ammo is pretty cheap
$5 a bullet here in Cambodia.

But considering a Glock will cost you $2500 - $3000, and 9mm ammo is around $8 a bullet, the Police here mostly have Makarovs or .38 Revolvers for their side arms. Only the very wealthy (think Colonel or General libel have Glocks) or some very specialized elite units such as the Prime Minister and King's Bodyguard Detail, or the 911 Special Forces/CT unit.
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Old 19 June 2014, 04:21
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Damn dude. I thought Glocks were expensive here at $1000-1500.
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Old 19 June 2014, 06:23
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Problem here, is the Glocks come from Thailand, where they sell at a premium price there. Then add on more when they come across the border.
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Old 19 June 2014, 07:34
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I burned about 9000 rounds for it last week...
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Old 19 June 2014, 07:53
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I'm with the short, muscle dude per the "Meh." If it is all you can get your hands on, and the one you have is reliable, oh well. I'd carry as many mags as you can, and verify they function. If it hiccups even once, I'd go with the .38 wheelgun (ASSuming it was a better quality).

Obviously, rifles are way better -- if that is an option.
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Old 19 June 2014, 08:19
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Damn dude. I thought Glocks were expensive here at $1000-1500.
They are expensive here too.... $398.20 with 3 mags but they do dob you for about $24 in sales tax....

As far as the Makarov, the one I had was pretty accurate and shot well for a cheap tackle box gun. Kind of rough around the edges, but it served its purpose.
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I used to own one, also a PA-63 in 9x18. I always considered it like any other 380, an acceptable(and sacrificial) backup gun. But they were about $100 when I was buying. S/F.....Ken M
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Old 19 June 2014, 11:31
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Would go the Glock 42 route if you are looking for something of relative size and power.
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^^^^From his geolocation, I think its more a question of inventory than caliber....
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Carried a few different models in Iraq. Never had to use one but they were decent on the range. The true Russian models are best, then maybe the Chinese version after that. Many have mentioned Glock, but I think a CZ is also a good salternative and for your AO maybe not as costly.
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Old 19 June 2014, 12:45
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^^^^From his geolocation, I think its more a question of inventory than caliber....
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Old 19 June 2014, 18:54
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I'm with the short, muscle dude per the "Meh." If it is all you can get your hands on, and the one you have is reliable, oh well. I'd carry as many mags as you can, and verify they function. If it hiccups even once, I'd go with the .38 wheelgun (ASSuming it was a better quality).

Obviously, rifles are way better -- if that is an option.
Access to AKs for me is not an issue. Hec you can buy an AK for several hundred dollars. Last several times I was here, I had a M-3 grease gun, tommy gun, m1 carbine, AKs and a 10" barrel AR-15. Handguns, good quality ones, hard to come by or very very expensive. And Handgun ammo is outrageous in price, where as 762x39 goes for around $1 a bullet. I still kick myself in the ass, for giving away my Colt 1908 .380 and the grease gun I had many years ago, gave the pistol to my 2IC, a Khmer, when I left and the grease gun to one of the team leaders. And I had 200 rounds of ammo for both of them. Had a nice .32 SW Revolver as well, that gave to another team leader. The Park Director recently got his hands on a pretty nice condition .38 S&W J Frame. I kick myself in the ass as well, as had an option to buy a Glock 21 several years ago, for $1500, but I passed on it. Good luck even finding one of those, as way too big for most Khmers. Most of the Glocks I have seen here, or shot were model 17s or 18s (yes, 911 has Glock 18s as does some of the body guard details).
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Old 19 June 2014, 18:57
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I'm with the short, muscle dude per the "Meh." If it is all you can get your hands on, and the one you have is reliable, oh well. I'd carry as many mags as you can, and verify they function. If it hiccups even once, I'd go with the .38 wheelgun (ASSuming it was a better quality).

Obviously, rifles are way better -- if that is an option.
Access to AKs for me is not an issue. Hec you can buy an AK for several hundred dollars. Last several times I was here, I had a M-3 grease gun, tommy gun, m1 carbine, AKs and a 10" barrel AR-15. Handguns, good quality ones, hard to come by or very very expensive. And Handgun ammo is outrageous in price, where as 762x39 goes for around $1 a bullet. I still kick myself in the ass, for giving away my Colt 1908 .380 and the grease gun I had many years ago, gave the pistol to my 2IC, a Khmer, when I left and the grease gun to one of the team leaders. And I had 200 rounds of ammo for both of them. Had a nice .32 SW Revolver as well, that gave to another team leader. The Park Director recently got his hands on a pretty nice condition .38 S&W J Frame. I kick myself in the ass as well, as had an option to buy a Glock 21 several years ago, for $1500, but I passed on it. Good luck even finding one of those, as way too big for most Khmers. Most of the Glocks I have seen here, or shot were model 17s or 18s (yes, 911 has Glock 18s as does some of the body guard details). Though personally I think the Glock 18 is worthless, it is a concept gun and unique and has the cool factor, but very impractical and unreliable. Unless you have a extreme vice like grip, it jams/stove pipes on just about every burst.
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Old 19 June 2014, 19:28
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I bought a Romainian Makarov off a buddy of mine several years ago. I havent put many rounds through it. Hard ball works best and I have had a few hollow points that would hang up on the feed ramp. It seems like a very simple durable pistol. Not many moving parts and the DA is nice. The only thing I have punched holes in was paper and it did good with that.
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I've owned a couple of the East German made ones.

3 points I'd make about the Mak:

1) If you are a 1911 shooter, the safety works in the correct direction. True it is slide mounted, but unless you have little girl hands it's not much of a problem to manipulate. When they are new they tend to be very stiff but that can be solved by polishing the contact surfaces/breaking any edges. Same for the trigger.

2) Immediate action is to pull the trigger again. Often a round that takes the first strike without going off will do so on the second. If not then you do the conventional thing.

3) Easy to suppress.
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Thanks Bob.
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