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Old 20 April 2018, 23:14
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Sand in an ammo can? No. I'd want ammo in the ammo can.
I like the idea of extra ammo doing more than take up space and add weight.
Ammo is better than sand for stopping small arms fire, and no, shooting into an ammo can does NOT make the ammo explode.

(Except in Hollywood, where shooting into anything makes it explode, usually with a bright yellow flame.)
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Old 21 April 2018, 06:33
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Dumb tanker question, does the 50 guard the left flank?
There are swing arm mounts on all the doors except the driver's- any of them can mount a MG- if you look closely there is a SAW on the driver side passenger door.

This vehicle looks a lot like the prototype- minus the armor- demonstrated at the Nevada Automotive Test Center to me and a couple of Wexford Group (Big Daddy Klein was one of them) back in 07...

The trade off is speed vs armor- most of the 5th Group DMMWV's were not armored at first- the intimidation factor of the 'loaded for bear' and the demeanor of the crews reduced the frequency of attacks vs attacks on Big Army vehicles...
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Old 21 April 2018, 06:43
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It still looks sexy, I want one
Yeah until someone starts shooting at you. "Let me hide behind this roll bar."
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Old 21 April 2018, 06:49
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I was very glad I never had to wear all that shit and could wear whatever I wanted.
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Old 21 April 2018, 07:50
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Thanks RGR, my old eyes can see the mount on the drivers side. All in all it looks pretty impressive. Wow, last time I was at NATC I was working for Oshkosh Truck testing a new fangled thing called the HEMTT. Damn I'm old. I hope we can give the kids the best we can and Godspeed.
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Old 21 April 2018, 11:31
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Yeah until someone starts shooting at you. "Let me hide behind this roll bar."
Been a long, long time since I could hide behind a roll bar - and even then it was only partially.

Oh, wait! Back then we didn't have roll bars.
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Old 21 April 2018, 13:00
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Been a long, long time since I could hide behind a roll bar - and even then it was only partially.

Oh, wait! Back then we didn't have roll bars.
Yep. Our "armor" was OG107s, and being sneaky.
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Old 21 April 2018, 13:05
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The Army wants to buy about 300 of these off of a USSOCOM contract at a price of $260,000 to $271,000 per vehicle.
Seems cheaper and more efficient to just buy a shit load of HiLuxs...
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Old 22 April 2018, 15:22
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Seems cheaper and more efficient to just buy a shit load of HiLuxs...

Someone’s working on those build up kits too.
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Six months after fielding it'll weigh 14,000lbs!
So it's not just the Air Force
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Old 23 April 2018, 20:26
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I know this is going to astound some of you youngsters, but we used to fight without EVERYTHING being armored.
What denotes a youngster?
I had no armor in 2003 on what the Bn considered "one of the most important vehicles." (Commo)

Took the soft shell doors off the Humvee so we could shoot while driving if needed and just an arctic back to protect the retrans equipment.
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Old 23 April 2018, 20:41
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Oh, I hear ya. I rode around Afghanistan for a year with sandbags in the floor and nothing on the sides. I'm just of the opinion we've gotten crazy with armor on vehicles and bodies.
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Old 23 April 2018, 20:46
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Reminds me of the dune buggy critter the Army was playing with in the early 90's.

Does this new thing fit in the 47's and V-22's (Osprey)?
Pinzgauers?

It doesn't matter. It will be bought & replaced in 2 years.
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Old 24 April 2018, 20:27
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These things are neat but when we took delivery of them, we proceeded to deadline almost all of them on the very first day of using them. Need the kinks worked out. There is no way that these will fit in a 47, our MRZRs barely do.
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Old 25 April 2018, 00:43
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I was actually going to mention that as well. Not just vehicles either. Big Army guys and the Marines looking like the Michelin Man always made me shake my head. Throat protectors, groin protectors, shoulder protectors etc. I was very glad I never had to wear all that shit and could wear whatever I wanted.
Flat bed Unimog, legs dangling over the sides, with the only "armour" being the budda budda budda coming from the .50 Browning mounted on it. Body armour consisted a cool headband. The good old days.
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