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Old 16 February 2018, 00:27
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Sixgun -

That is kinda my point. As a layperson, my first resource is a dictionary. Right now the modern version is Google, but Google keeps changing shit to meet the current distortion of intent in the move towards Communism.

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First mistake, "Google". There are enough credible online dictionaries available without using Google for definitions.

If I cited "google" in one of my assignments, I'd be marked down severely.

The same dictionary you are referencing in hardback is now available online.

I do see where you seem to be coming from with all this, but if I may offer this suggestion. If you can do a course in essay writing, most good courses offer some advice on how to construct your arguments in more constructive ways.

Failing that, your first step is to stop, then think critically about what you are trying to achieve ... or what the real question is. Write it down.

Second step, examine your own bias ... nothing wrong with a bias, we all have them, but you need to divorce yourself from that and be willing to argue from a neutral position and, be prepared for your own research to change your own bias through education. If you can't, or are unwilling to, open your own eyes, then your presented arguments will be biased and flawed.

Third step ... ENJOY learning new shit.

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Old 17 February 2018, 03:46
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Old 17 February 2018, 18:24
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well I support affirmative action for people with disabilities (Section 501 for federal employees with disabilities and Section 503 for federal contractors with disabilities of the Rehab Act require one but OFCCP don't enforce it. The ADA banned it. But AA for women, minorities, ethnic groups, gender, sex, etc. No. What for?

How are you gonna have affirmative action without a quota system?
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Old 19 February 2018, 10:31
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To all posters -

Thanks for contributing and not taking this thread sideways which it obviously had the great potential for. I am getting the picture some of you are thinking I have an ax to grind and squat on Breitbart and the 'Chans' (not even sure if that is the right use, my awareness of most of that shit comes from the anecdotes I read here). Not the case, I just live ground zero in one of the primary historical drivers of the progressive movement.

As a layperson and not a scientist, or even a college educated academic, I default to the tools I have picked up over the years in my tactical life - self educate, starting with word definitions to begin framing the conversation, and then moving towards further study (ie reading etc). I do appreciate the suggested background material here.

I ended up looking up Googles' definition of Affirmative Action: an action or policy favoring those who tend to suffer from discrimination, especially in relation to employment or education; positive discrimination. because there isn't one from Grandma's dictionary.

This still leaves significant heartburn for me in the context of the original post. Even Google is saying that Affirmative Action is discriminatory, just that it is 'positive'.

If we lose control of the definitions of our language, and the redefinition of the language is aligned to a political goal, and then when the common man is trying to enter the conversation and is in error when relying on definitions for initial research, it becomes immediately clear how you end up in a society that cannot communicate effectively between its various different elements.

I will leave it there with a thank you for the good discussion to all.
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Old 19 February 2018, 12:58
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This gets a person to thinking about how we arrived at a situation where Socialism is now in vogue with a solid 30-40% of the country.

The dictionary definition of Socialism is that it is a transitory form of government between Capitalism and Communism, characterized by imperfect distribution of goods and services.

So in the context of the modern results of Affirmative Action, after about 20 years of implementation, you get large portions of the population advocating for this : http://www.dsausa.org/

The policy of Affirmative Action has morphed from a government program to address racial inequity (it's reverse racism) into a campus based political movement to advocate for Socialism and Communism, largely by setting the stage for disassociating personal consequence from personal performance and encouraging 'community' based solutions to everything.

There are clear similarities in what is going on right now in our country and what happened in Germany, with white supremacy being interchangeable with diversity supremacy.
"Life in the Third Reich - Daily Life In Nazi Germany 1933-1945"
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Clear similarities indeed, but "clear parallels" might be a better way to express this. Everyone has heard the old saw of "those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it" but what they often seem not to get is that it doesn't repeat "exactly", and so they say, "Oh, that's not happening". They're right, it's not repeating exactly, that's not what the saying means. A little bit of ability to see the parallels is required.

Read this book (Kindle available) and you will understand exactly how they did it. And the same techniques are at play by The Left. Why would there be a vast variety of techniques to break down a society/culture, to control people and take it over? There aren't, it's always the same shit. The Commie's, the Nazi's, Saul Alinski, Lenin, the Jesuits, any one else who wants to run the show, ALL of them do the same shit.

The problem isn't the average person who just wants to be left alone to live their lives. The problem is these fucking egomaniacs who WANT to run things, think others need them to do so, etc.. Anyone who says, "I want a career in public service" has just self identified as a future part of the problem.
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Old 19 February 2018, 18:16
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President Carter's Secretary of the Army, Clifford Alexander Jr. (1977 1981) kept returning the Army General Promotion list until he saw a black officer being nominated. it was a lot of paperwork.....

[QUOTE=doitforjonny;1058707131]To all posters -

I ended up looking up Googles' definition of Affirmative Action: an action or policy favoring those who tend to suffer from discrimination, especially in relation to employment or education; positive discrimination. because there isn't one from Grandma's dictionary.
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