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Old 21 August 2017, 16:53
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Amazing stories of survival.
I hope someday the Wasp,Hornet and Lexington are found.
I would imagine those are on the list, but that Mr. Allen will target the missing ships with more loss of life first.
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Old 22 August 2017, 20:00
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I read a book about it, cannot recall the title, but didn't Captain commit suicide?
The reason I remember is that is how the book started.
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Old 22 August 2017, 21:02
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I read a book about it, cannot recall the title, but didn't Captain commit suicide?
The reason I remember is that is how the book started.
He did, in 1968.

The skipper of the Japanese submarine, Cmdr. Hashimoto, testified at Capt. McVay's Court Martial. Years later, in 1999, when surviving crew members were trying to get the guilty verdict overturned, Mr. Hashimoto wrote a letter on their behalf to the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee.. It said in part, "Our peoples have forgiven each other for that terrible war and its consequences. Perhaps it is time your peoples forgave Captain McVay for the humiliation of his unjust conviction."

The following year, Mr. Hashimoto died. Five days later, President Clinton signed a Congressional Resolution exonerating McVay.

Cmdr. Hashimoto's family had been killed in Hiroshima by the bomb delivered on the USS Indianapolis.
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Old 23 August 2017, 13:18
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He did, in 1968.

The skipper of the Japanese submarine, Cmdr. Hashimoto, testified at Capt. McVay's Court Martial. Years later, in 1999, when surviving crew members were trying to get the guilty verdict overturned, Mr. Hashimoto wrote a letter on their behalf to the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee.. It said in part, "Our peoples have forgiven each other for that terrible war and its consequences. Perhaps it is time your peoples forgave Captain McVay for the humiliation of his unjust conviction."

The following year, Mr. Hashimoto died. Five days later, President Clinton signed a Congressional Resolution exonerating McVay.

Cmdr. Hashimoto's family had been killed in Hiroshima by the bomb delivered on the USS Indianapolis.
The fact that the Navy called a (former) enemy combatant to testify on behalf of the prosecution at a court martial has always been mind-blowing to me. Having said that, I have always thought Cmdr Hashimoto was an honorable man based on his words and efforts on behalf of Capt McVay.

Didn't know that his family had been killed in Hiroshima. That level of objectivity, if that is even the right word, is...wow. Very impressive.
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Old 23 August 2017, 14:27
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The Captain of that ship really got screwed, an example of the Navy having to nail somebody when something, even if nobody is at fault, goes horribly wrong.
In the US Navy? Shocked, I tell you...shocked!

I love it when they find lost ships and try to record some historical information, be it video, artifact recovery, whatever.

Awesome job.
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Old 24 August 2017, 09:33
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The fact that the Navy called a (former) enemy combatant to testify on behalf of the prosecution at a court martial has always been mind-blowing to me. Having said that, I have always thought Cmdr Hashimoto was an honorable man based on his words and efforts on behalf of Capt McVay.

Didn't know that his family had been killed in Hiroshima. That level of objectivity, if that is even the right word, is...wow. Very impressive.
Capt McVay retired as an Admiral. Cmdr Hashimoto stated that zig-zagging woud have made no difference in his attack run. He also helped the survivors to clear McVay's name.
Adm.McVay suffered many years from harassment from the families of his lost crew. He was found in his front yard dead from a gunshot wound holding a toy sailor.
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Here is a personal account of the sinking of the USS Indianapolis.

Seventy-two years after two torpedoes fired from a Japanese submarine sunk cruiser USS Indianapolis (CA-35), the ship’s wreckage was found resting on the seafloor on Saturday – more than 18,000 feet below the Pacific Ocean’s surface.

Paul Allen, Microsoft co-founder and billionaire philanthropist, led a search team, assisted by historians from the Naval History and Heritage Command (NHHC) in Washington, D.C., to accomplish what past searches had failed to do – find Indianapolis, considered the last great naval tragedy of World War II.



“Japanese submarine slammed two torpedoes into her side, Chief. We was comin’ back from the island of Tinian to Leyte. We’d just delivered the bomb. The Hiroshima bomb. Eleven hundred men went into the water. Vessel went down in 12 minutes.

Didn’t see the first shark for about a half-hour. Tiger. 13-footer. You know how you know that in the water, Chief? You can tell by lookin’ from the dorsal to the tail. What we didn’t know, was that our bomb mission was so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn’t even list us overdue for a week. Very first light, Chief, sharks come cruisin’ by, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. It was sorta like you see in the calendars, you know the infantry squares in the old calendars like the Battle of Waterloo and the idea was the shark come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin’ and hollerin’ and sometimes that shark he go away… but sometimes he wouldn’t go away.

Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn’t even seem to be livin’… ’til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin’ and your hollerin’ those sharks come in and… they rip you to pieces.

You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don’t know how many sharks there were, maybe a thousand. I do know how many men, they averaged six an hour. Thursday mornin’, Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boson’s mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. He bobbed up, down in the water, he was like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he’d been bitten in half below the waist.

At noon on the fifth day, a Lockheed Ventura swung in low and he spotted us, a young pilot, lot younger than Mr. Hooper here, anyway he spotted us and a few hours later a big ol’ fat PBY come down and started to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin’ for my turn. I’ll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went into the water. 316 men come out, the sharks took the rest, June the 29th, 1945.

Anyway, we delivered the bomb.
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PBS is taking viewers down to the wreckage in a one-hour documentary airing tonight, 13 Sep, at 2200 eastern:

http://www.pbs.org/uss-indianapolis/home/
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Old 13 September 2017, 09:54
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I wish his crew did a live internet stream the way they did on Musashi.
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Old 13 September 2017, 22:29
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PBS is taking viewers down to the wreckage in a one-hour documentary airing tonight, 13 Sep, at 2200 eastern:

http://www.pbs.org/uss-indianapolis/home/
Absolutely riveting, truly an impressive piece of television history and it is a live broadcast. If you miss it, you can probably catch it on the PBS web site or YT.
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