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Old 30 March 2018, 12:57
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Just a few comments:

1. Whatever happened to "ChampVA"?
2. Just had an appointment with my new PCM at the Colorado Springs Clinic and she is a Nurse Practitioner) as are many of the PCMs (not that that is bad).

3. Every provider I have seen at VA has said the VBA side will not see your file unless you get a copy and send it to the VBA. Good luck with that.

4. I am very fortunate to have Medicare/TFL that picks up all my civilian care costs. I see VA for very few things and they get confused that I have both.

5. Lastly, When I had my appointment with the PCM, I asked about pain management and she said she would have o start from my beginning as she had no records. So she recommended I go to my civilian primary care doc and I will.

Well, enough spouting for now.
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Old 30 March 2018, 14:54
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However, no politician on the planet is going to put 370,000 people out of work.
Agreed. In many ways, the VA is more about providing jobs for the people that work there than it is about taking care of veterans.
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Old 30 March 2018, 18:52
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My experience with the VA mirrors others in that nearly every experience with them has been beyond a headache. Three times of using GI Bill all jacked up and didn't get first payments until after Thanksgiving multiple years in a row. But the coup de gras was when I went in last year to have an ultra sound on a lump on my nut. I had had one done while I was active duty and it was ruled a benign cyst. That original cyst gotten larger and another one showed up and was painful so I figured it should be a looked at. I hadn't been in in quite a while so I expected the process would take a while, but I was told flat out that I was no longer eligible for VA service due to my income and service rating (then 0%). I was initially shocked since I had just gotten a letter informing me that my VA coverage satisfied the Obamacare mandate, but said fine I'm going to need that in writing so I can enroll in private insurance outside of the open enrollment period. Nope, no way that could be done so here I am not wanting to waste a bunch of time while these fucks drag there heels so I paid about a thousand bucks out of pocket to get the ultrasound and have a radiologist tell me thankfully it wasn't cancer. I was also off for this month so spent the next thirty days visiting and calling my Senator and Congressman's office multiple times a day. Amazingly inside of a week it was all a mistake and I was now eligible for to be seen at the VA again.
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Old 30 March 2018, 19:39
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My experience with the VA mirrors others in that nearly every experience with them has been beyond a headache. Three times of using GI Bill all jacked up and didn't get first payments until after Thanksgiving multiple years in a row. But the coup de gras was when I went in last year to have an ultra sound on a lump on my nut. I had had one done while I was active duty and it was ruled a benign cyst. That original cyst gotten larger and another one showed up and was painful so I figured it should be a looked at. I hadn't been in in quite a while so I expected the process would take a while, but I was told flat out that I was no longer eligible for VA service due to my income and service rating (then 0%). I was initially shocked since I had just gotten a letter informing me that my VA coverage satisfied the Obamacare mandate, but said fine I'm going to need that in writing so I can enroll in private insurance outside of the open enrollment period. Nope, no way that could be done so here I am not wanting to waste a bunch of time while these fucks drag there heels so I paid about a thousand bucks out of pocket to get the ultrasound and have a radiologist tell me thankfully it wasn't cancer. I was also off for this month so spent the next thirty days visiting and calling my Senator and Congressman's office multiple times a day. Amazingly inside of a week it was all a mistake and I was now eligible for to be seen at the VA again.
Three times of using GI Bill all jacked up and didn't get first payments until after Thanksgiving multiple years in a row

The problem with this is the school did not submit the paperwork on time. Thanksgiving Holiday time the individuals that are suppose to submit the paperwork took the holiday off. This happens all the time. IT IS THE SCHOOL that screw you up. One of my grandsons call me with the same type of problem. Thru my contacts I found out the school did not file the paperwork. this is on going problem, why I don't know. (NO PAPER WORK from the school NO Pay)

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Old 30 March 2018, 19:50
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School started in August and I never saw a payment until after Thanksgiving.
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Old 30 March 2018, 20:01
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School started in August and I never saw a payment until after Thanksgiving.
IT depends on the school an classes you take, If your classes are 12 weeks then it about right. They can't submit your claim until the school course is complete. If you get an incomplete in a subject then you will not get paid until it is complete.
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Old 30 March 2018, 20:54
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IT depends on the school an classes you take, If your classes are 12 weeks then it about right. They can't submit your claim until the school course is complete. If you get an incomplete in a subject then you will not get paid until it is complete.
What you're saying doesn't match my experiences. This was on both Chapter 30 and Chapter 33. In the Spring Semesters it was never a problem and payments started in January despite having yet to finish the classes until May.

In all honesty those experiences pale in comparison to the mother fuckers at the Boise VA who said we aren't going to see you but no we won't give you a letter stating that, then whoops our bad. The entire system is a giant cluster fuck and needs to become a relic of history.
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Old 30 March 2018, 22:12
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My bottom line is this: If I'm sick, I want to see a Doctor NOW. Even at 100%, I call and they schedule me for an appointment 6 weeks away which means waiting in the ER forever and if it's after 5pm the fucking pharmacy is closed.

I can call my civilian provider and squeeze in the next day in most cases.

That could be life or death scenario if it's a serious illness/injury.
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Old 30 March 2018, 22:22
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Wildman, you can't defend something that is incapable of being defended. That is the VA!

I get appointments when I want them and I cancel them when I want to -- not them canceling on me. I don't have any issues waiting to see a specialist of any kind when I want to see one.

The VA system can't touch that. It's that simple.
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Old 31 March 2018, 02:40
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What you're saying doesn't match my experiences. This was on both Chapter 30 and Chapter 33. In the Spring Semesters it was never a problem and payments started in January despite having yet to finish the classes until May.

In all honesty those experiences pale in comparison to the mother fuckers at the Boise VA who said we aren't going to see you but no we won't give you a letter stating that, then whoops our bad. The entire system is a giant cluster fuck and needs to become a relic of history.
both Chapter 30 and Chapter 33.fall under different requirements there is a change in the works for the GI Bill.
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Old 31 March 2018, 02:45
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My bottom line is this: If I'm sick, I want to see a Doctor NOW. Even at 100%, I call and they schedule me for an appointment 6 weeks away which means waiting in the ER forever and if it's after 5pm the fucking pharmacy is closed.

I can call my civilian provider and squeeze in the next day in most cases.

That could be life or death scenario if it's a serious illness/injury.
I go to the emergency room when I can't get an appointment right away. put on one of those yellow mask before you check in. They look at you like what does he have or she have.
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Old 31 March 2018, 07:31
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Emergency room at VA hospital , or non-VA hospital?
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Old 31 March 2018, 07:37
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VA, reference my post.
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Old 31 March 2018, 07:46
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My bottom line is this: If I'm sick, I want to see a Doctor NOW. Even at 100%, I call and they schedule me for an appointment 6 weeks away which means waiting in the ER forever and if it's after 5pm the fucking pharmacy is closed.

I can call my civilian provider and squeeze in the next day in most cases.

That could be life or death scenario if it's a serious illness/injury.
Agree.
I changed my primary care to Patient First and can see a provider pretty much 24/7. If the VA ran half as effectively as they do, it would be a 100 % improvement.
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Old 31 March 2018, 08:21
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Lightbulb Here's a solution....

Wherever the VA operates a facility; therefore the facility falls under that state employment laws:
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Just saying, do half-ass work in the construction field and see how long you last...
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Old 5 April 2018, 18:19
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It about time the V.A. put a stop about VA Privatization Myth

Debunking the VA Privatization Myth
04/05/2018 04:19 PM EDT

There is no effort underway to privatize VA and to suggest otherwise is completely false and a red herring designed to distract and avoid honest debate on the real issues surrounding Veterans' health care. Very Interesting article.

http://links.govdelivery.com/track?t...et.cfm?id=4034
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Old 25 April 2018, 06:15
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Is there anyone out there, outside of the Swamp that can run the VA effectively. Are we doomed to continue with the status quo of internal beaurracy?

Thoughts?
Recommendations?

I'm at the point where I think the VA needs to be privatized. It's a defunct as the USPS, which goes under every year by BILLIONS costing the taxpayer enormous amounts of money. Raising the cost of a stamp by .04 cents isn't going to fix it.

I don't mean to bring up 2 issues here but was using the USPS as an example.

It looks like the POTUS personal physician isn't going to make the cut and probably rightfully so.

Is the bueuracy in DC just too hardened on this issue? Throwing more money at it doesn't seem to work. My recent surgery cost well over 6 figures. Co pays are starting to come in.

WTF to do. Anybody?
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An observation; for many years I used the VA system and now I am trying to use the old people system. VA works at not working while private side works at making money.

The incentive to do the right thing seems to be missing at many levels, money talks.

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Old 25 April 2018, 07:26
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Downsize the VA to mental health and primary care. It's pointless to spend all the money to run specialty care that vets can't get into in a timely manner and won't do anything when you do. I spent three years trying to get them to do something about one of my knees. I went to a civ Ortho on a Tuesday and was in surgery two days later. I have completely given up on the VA system for any actual care. It makes me sad for the guys who have that as their only option
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Downsize the VA to mental health and primary care. It's pointless to spend all the money to run specialty care that vets can't get into in a timely manner and won't do anything when you do. I spent three years trying to get them to do something about one of my knees. I went to a civ Ortho on a Tuesday and was in surgery two days later. I have completely given up on the VA system for any actual care. It makes me sad for the guys who have that as their only option

And Dental services for Christ sake. It's the only thing I hardly go there for. Besides the Army's transition to Delta Dental sucks balls.

No WV jokes please.
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