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Old 27 April 2018, 16:07
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Fight over privatization
Veterans organizations, including Disabled American Veterans (DAV), American Veterans (AMVETS), The American Legion and Veterans of Foreign Wars, all oppose White House calls to increasingly allow veterans to seek private care. They argue it would hurt the VA to spend resources to provide health care for veterans outside of the agency.
“That could lead to a dismantling, or a withering away, of the VA because money is going out instead of coming in to fix the problems,” said DAV’s Executive Director Garry Augustine

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Old 27 April 2018, 21:56
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The building of or adding on to buildings at different V.A's are being done.

Part of the problem is STATE Regulations, OSHA, Unions, so forth & so forth. If all the funds are not spent by the facial year end or not allocated then they are with drawn. this is where the problem is STATE Regulations, OSHA, Unions.

I know where the V.A. Hospital has a Building being used, BUT only have is can be used because. Someone screw up.
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I am getting tired. The VA is in my opinion a national disgrace. The VA's authority to contract for and do construction has been taken away from the VA because of mismanagement, fraud, waste and abuse. There is nothing in "state regulations", OSHA or unions that is hindering anything. It is the VA graft and corruption of VA bureaucrats coupled with a lot of VA incompetence.
Army Corps of Engineers has now taken over management of construction and contracting because of what all the VA did wrong.
I will post some links below because you refuse to acknowledge any of the data I have provided or look for yourself.
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https://www.bdcnetwork.com/us-house-...nt-va-projects

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...ondoggles.html
https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/689443.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.12807db5fdf4

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/arti...NEWS/150409945
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Old 27 April 2018, 22:12
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Sir,
I am getting tired. The VA is in my opinion a national disgrace. The VA's authority to contract for and do construction has been taken away from the VA because of mismanagement, fraud, waste and abuse. There is nothing in "state regulations", OSHA or unions that is hindering anything. It is the VA graft and corruption of VA bureaucrats coupled with a lot of VA incompetence.
Army Corps of Engineers has now taken over management of construction and contracting because of what all the VA did wrong.
I will post some links below because you refuse to acknowledge any of the data I have provided or look for yourself.
Don't send me any more PMs.
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https://www.bdcnetwork.com/us-house-...nt-va-projects

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...ondoggles.html
https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/689443.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.12807db5fdf4

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/arti...NEWS/150409945

The Army Corp of Engineers just added a parking garage to my local VA last year.
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Old 27 April 2018, 23:50
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ďThat could lead to a dismantling, or a withering away, of the VA because money is going out instead of coming in to fix the problems,Ē said DAVís Executive Director Garry Augustine

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There in lies the problem AND the solution.

This is typical of .GOV type thinking. "We could be more efficient if we only had more funding...."
No. The VA is a classic example of how they (.GOV) are never efficient, and never will be.

Look at how the VA Mortgage program works. Or the GI Bills. The VA only implements a program, and outside corporations do they heavy lifting...because working with the government directly always has been and always will be a serious farce.

I'd like the VA to downsize the facilities and personnel to just a few focused places where they can specialize in something unique to Veterans, like Combat related care only. The rest of there existence can be creating a Health Care Program that real hospitals can opt into...with real benefits for providing great care to Vets.

I need to see a Doc shortly. And like it was said here recently, I don't want to take another appointment from another Vet who is on the wait-list (4months in my AO). So I pay out of pocket and go see someone who can fix me in 1 hour.

We don't all need a magical specialist that only the VA can offer.
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Old 6 May 2018, 12:50
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Ramble. Privatizing? Big mistake.

You all think that if they do away with the VA you will get something like Blue Cross insurance. What you will end up with is Medicare/Medicaid with your deductibles paid or not depending on status. Iíve heard some rumblings about people being unhappy with the changes they made to TriCare but I have not paid attention to that.

Just like medical studies, individual cases donít mean much because of variables but I have gotten better care at VA than from any private insurance and even active duty when taken as a whole. This thread caught my eye because my annual is due and I started to make my appointment online then remembered that I need to send an email to the transportation coordinator and make sure I pick a good day of the week. I can go any day I get an appointment but some days they have heavier loads than others and it makes it quicker to pick one of the light days. I live 45 miles from the hospital and could use a mobile lab but they are always busy and going to the hospital is one stop shopping. I go in for labs first thing and normally my doc has me paged when they get the lab results and they take me in before my appointment if they have a time slot, late show etÖ I take gabapentin (neurotin) and something not publicized with the VA is if you take anything stronger than tylenol for pain they do regular drug/screens to make sure you are not self medicating. Everybody made such a big deal about vets being over prescribed opiods that the pendulum has swung to the cautious side and now we find out itís a nationwide problem. Before I went to the VA I donít know if I ever had complete blood and urine labs other than drug testing but that was the first thing they scheduled before I ever saw a doc. That would not be the case with private insurance medicare/medicaid etÖ They would do the back stuff, try the neurotin eventually get around to the MRI and then schedule what they could get paid for on the annual which would probably be an office visit.


Iím surprised so many people here have good private insurance. You have to be working for a good sized company to have that anymore without paying huge premiums and deductibles/copays.

Like the disclaimer for stocks states ďpast performance is no guarantee of future results.Ē
Even if you donít think you will ever need VA it is reassuring to know it is there. I know from personal experience that everything can turn on a dime for your situation. Before you go wishing private care on everybody look at the state of healthcare. There are hospitals closing left and right because of depending on Medicare and Medicaid. There are not enough good private insurance providers to keep them going at the high profit margins they demand. At the current rate everyone is going to end up in the pauper government system except the wealthy.


We have been in a recession for 9 years, and 8 years is the normal long time between corrections. When the Fed canít find buyers for the Tbills your going to see what inflation and real cost cutting in government programs look like. We might avoid the worst of it in our lifetime but I doubt the guys just starting out will. Look what they did with normal retirements. Offloading it to 401Kís which are not working well for the people who have them right now. Look at what they did to people during the RIF a few years ago. I think that is why The President went along with the bloated budget for Military spending. Every big budget passed may be the last one that depends on borrowing to fund it.

Now the good news. Even though I fear it, I donít think The President has plans to privatize. I think it is just another item on his list to get fixed. He says the Koch brothers want him to offload that pain in the ass liability so the private sector can plunder it, vets keep going to the media saying they want private care so send me the bill and Iíll sign it and all of a sudden we all sit up and take notice just like every other item he has dealt with.

Be careful what you wish for. Once the change is done it's done and there is no going back except maybe to the old system which makes the current one look really good.
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