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Old 8 February 2020, 05:58
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.....Point is, The Parties/RNC/DNC control 99% of the other elections because they control the campaign funding. Will it ever change probably not.
Which is the point I made a long time ago in another thread.

Third parties, like the Libertarians, don't want to put in the hard work at the lowest levels to get their party "on the map".

They would rather chat about how superior they are and vote third party at the top levels.

The reply was something like "there are lots of elected Libertarians" - but the numbers worked out to like one per county.

You want a national third party? You need to get organized and start doing the hard work in local elections, school board, city council, county supervisor, etc.

Get about 10 Libertarians per county and they can throw support to each other, be in the news more and start taking shots at the state House.

Until then third parties are just feel good individuals with just enough votes to spoil elections. They sit in small groups stroking themselves to feel good.
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Old 8 February 2020, 06:27
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So does President Trump keep VP Pence or does he pick someone else?
He will keep him. Correct me if I am wrong, but one thing I have noticed about President Trump is his loyalty. If someone helps him, befriends him, is loyal to him - he remains loyal to them and repays them in kind.


I dont see, or would want, Pence trying to run in 2024.
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Old 8 February 2020, 06:39
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I dont see, or would want, Pence trying to run in 2024.
Lefties would shit exploded craniums if one of the Trump children ran in 2024.

Imagine if Ivanka Trump was the first female US President?
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Old 8 February 2020, 06:40
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.....I dont see, or would want, Pence trying to run in 2024.
The GOPe long knives will be out for Pence by 2023.

I see another 2024 Republican Primary full of GOPe "It's my turn" types. Mittens will be probably be given a lot of free press support because they know they can slaughter him when the primary is over.

Kinda' like another R who didn't have the juice to put up a fight.
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Old 8 February 2020, 06:53
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If James Carville was running the DNC, there might be a real threat to President Trump's re-election chances.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/pol...james-carville
Totally disagree. It doesn't matter who is running the train once the train is totally out of control.

The loony dem candidates are only a symptom of the dems problem. The media and teachers/professors have driven the dem voters completely insane with their propaganda. The expectations of dem voters are so far from what is actually possible in the real world that no sane voter can support them. This is why independents are siding with Trump as shown by his rising polling data.
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Old 8 February 2020, 06:59
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He will keep him. Correct me if I am wrong, but one thing I have noticed about President Trump is his loyalty. If someone helps him, befriends him, is loyal to him - he remains loyal to them and repays them in kind.


I dont see, or would want, Pence trying to run in 2024.
Since you brought it up can you tell us who you do want to run in 2024? I ask because I can't think of anyone that will be a able to stand up to this kind of scrutiny/attack without withering.
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Old 8 February 2020, 07:43
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Since you brought it up can you tell us who you do want to run in 2024? I ask because I can't think of anyone that will be a able to stand up to this kind of scrutiny/attack without withering.
Candace Owens.
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Old 8 February 2020, 08:37
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Candace Owens.
She will turn 35 in April of 2024 so she will be ellegable but she has zero experience running anything in government or out. That will be her biggest drawback as I see it now.
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Old 8 February 2020, 09:08
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She will turn 35 in April of 2024 so she will be ellegable but she has zero experience running anything in government or out. That will be her biggest drawback as I see it now.
Obama and Buttigieg not much experience either.

Politically, a black conservative female is a good choice. Not only because, but because of political strategy.. She is very articulate and an excellent debater.
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She will turn 35 in April of 2024 so she will be ellegable but she has zero experience running anything in government or out. That will be her biggest drawback as I see it now.
If communist Bernie Sanders secures the nomination, he will need a strong Democrat to run as his VP. I suggest @MittRomney. ~Candace Owens

Experience or not, I like the way she thinks, and that puts her ahead of every experienced Democrat I know.
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Obama and Buttigieg not much experience either.
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It's great how you interject buttblast into every conversation. Haha
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Old 8 February 2020, 09:31
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Old 8 February 2020, 09:36
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It's great how you interject buttblast into every conversation. Haha
Pete pandering for the black vote. I wonder if hes got some of that HRC hot sauce in his back pocket.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AhD3fFK3C9U
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Old 8 February 2020, 09:48
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Which is the point I made a long time ago in another thread.

Third parties, like the Libertarians, don't want to put in the hard work at the lowest levels to get their party "on the map".

They would rather chat about how superior they are and vote third party at the top levels.

The reply was something like "there are lots of elected Libertarians" - but the numbers worked out to like one per county.

You want a national third party? You need to get organized and start doing the hard work in local elections, school board, city council, county supervisor, etc.

Get about 10 Libertarians per county and they can throw support to each other, be in the news more and start taking shots at the state House.

Until then third parties are just feel good individuals with just enough votes to spoil elections. They sit in small groups stroking themselves to feel good.

I do not think a third party, Libertarian or otherwise is the solution. I know it's a fantasy and would never happen, but a simple recommendation would be to take party affiliation off the ballot and just have a name. That wouldn't solve much but it sure would take some steam out of party line voting by ignorant citizens.

Judges are good examples. When elections have 10's of thousands of people within a county voting for Congressman and such, Judges voting numbers are usually minuscule in comparison. Why, because they're usually not listed by party. Just a name is on the ballot, and if the voters do not know the name of their supposed party's candidate they leave it blank. Mainly out of fear of voting for the wrong judge based on the voters preferred party. I see it every election cycle.

It boils down to me just being angry with any parties grip on the voting public and ignorant citizens who vote strait party ticket, regardless of how bad a candidate is. As long as it remains that way, we will always have what we have, a circus event.

It's a pipe dream for me to believe that people will ever come around to just voting for who's the best person to do a job, without the labeling of party, as the moniker to their abilities for an office "of the people".

I going to eat a Snickers now, maybe it will help.
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Old 8 February 2020, 10:49
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Obama and Buttigieg not much experience either.

Politically, a black conservative female is a good choice. Not only because, but because of political strategy.. She is very articulate and an excellent debater.
BO and Buttplug experience level is a pretty low bar but even at that they did actually have some even if it sucked to me.

She is an impressive debater and being a black female conservative makes her a great pundit but Republicans tend to actually look at records of accomplishment for office unlike dems.
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Old 8 February 2020, 11:01
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I do not think a third party, Libertarian or otherwise is the solution. I know it's a fantasy and would never happen, but a simple recommendation would be to take party affiliation off the ballot and just have a name. That wouldn't solve much but it sure would take some steam out of party line voting by ignorant citizens.

Judges are good examples. When elections have 10's of thousands of people within a county voting for Congressman and such, Judges voting numbers are usually minuscule in comparison. Why, because they're usually not listed by party. Just a name is on the ballot, and if the voters do not know the name of their supposed party's candidate they leave it blank. Mainly out of fear of voting for the wrong judge based on the voters preferred party. I see it every election cycle.

It boils down to me just being angry with any parties grip on the voting public and ignorant citizens who vote strait party ticket, regardless of how bad a candidate is. As long as it remains that way, we will always have what we have, a circus event.

It's a pipe dream for me to believe that people will ever come around to just voting for who's the best person to do a job, without the labeling of party, as the moniker to their abilities for an office "of the people".

I going to eat a Snickers now, maybe it will help.
I share your frustration but eliminating D & Rs from the ballot will accomplish only one thing. Longer lines to vote. Sheeple will all just pull out their smart phones to find the D or R and that will take time. I see this happen at the polling place when I go to vote.

Eating a Snickers to relieve frustration is at least better than drinking.
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Old 8 February 2020, 12:19
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And now Mayor Pete is calling to end the Electoral College. (Article on Breitbart if you want to read it.) After he just had the equivalent of that concept (-ish) declare him the winner in Iowa. Not sure if he is just looking for something to help differentiate himself or if he truly believes in killing the EC in lieu of popular vote.

Don't all of these idiots calling to end the EC understand two things if they actually get what they want: 1) it will come back to bite you in your ass eventually - and 2) more important - as I have said before - the EC is one of the last true remnants of a Republic that we have. But then again, I am talking about Dem/Socialists, so "Republic" means nothing to them...

DB8541 - you got another one of those Snickers?
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Obama and Buttigieg not much experience either.

Politically, a black conservative female is a good choice. Not only because, but because of political strategy.. She is very articulate and an excellent debater.
And because she used to be a liberal. She knows how the game is played.
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Old 8 February 2020, 12:44
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Don Jr. in 2024 :)
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Don Jr. in 2024 :)
As the VP so he can better cut his political teef, with President Pence to shine the way...I'll go for that.
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