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Old 21 April 2019, 16:32
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Those candidates would have a chance if people would cast their votes for them...
I've been saying - and doing - this for the past 5 general election cycles...
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Old 21 April 2019, 16:35
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...and you think a second term of Bush 1 would have netted a different result than Clinton?
Not sure how you gathered that from my post. I said that Perot took enough "conservative" votes from Bush to give Clinton the election.
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Old 21 April 2019, 16:48
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I agree, and until they can build that level of support, votes for them might as well be votes for whomever you oppose. Lots of evidence out there suggesting that had Perot not run as an independent Papa Bush would have been reelected president in 1992. All of us who voted for Perot just increased the value of the votes cast for WJC.
That support has to come somewhere. Imagine if Hillary had won and people were telling you they voted for her because Trump couldn’t win. It’s a circle. They can’t win because people won’t vote for them because they can’t win...

You can call those votes support for whoever you want. At the end of the day, Im also not voting for the person I oppose. Maybe they should realize they are leaving votes on the table and stop supporting gun control.


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POTUS may pull.out a second term, I hope so - not because I think he's going to effect substantial change, but for two reasons :

1. SCOTUS

2. Breathing space...


I think, at this point, SCOTUS is only a breathing space institution - the powers that be in Congress can make them irrelevant when they choose.

...my .02, ymmv...
I know at least one of the judges he appointed is what I want breathing space from, and I’m not completely convinced his SCOTUS picks don’t fall into that category as well.
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Old 21 April 2019, 18:00
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Old 21 April 2019, 18:26
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...and you think a second term of Bush 1 would have netted a different result than Clinton?

Until the make up of Congress changes the best you can hope for us a disruptive POTUS, like DJT, to gain a little breathing space.

That's all DJT is, and folks should get this fact squarely in the front of their thinking AND planning...

POTUS may pull.out a second term, I hope so - not because I think he's going to effect substantial change, but for two reasons :

1. SCOTUS

2. Breathing space...


I think, at this point, SCOTUS is only a breathing space institution - the powers that be in Congress can make them irrelevant when they choose.

...my .02, ymmv...
As usual, Im with sixgun on this one. There are a plethora of D candidates throwing their hats into the ring for this cycle. Eventually, it will coalesce to one that has the best shot. Most if not all will carry H2O for the Socialist D wing of the party.

Regarding the bump-stock EO.... Meh, sacrificial lamb to the Crazies Haters IMHO... Red meat. I know that the POTUS has his son advocating for us on the 2nd and I believe hes sincere. However, ymmv, but Im casting my vote for him again for round two (refer to sixgun above).

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Old 21 April 2019, 20:12
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BLUF: POTUS's greatest threat in 2020 is himself, as noted in the Mueller Report. After the third debate in 2016 when he told Hillary, "Because you'd be locked up", regarding her private server shenanigans, the left were bitching about how "Banana Republic" that was, going after political enemies. WTF do they think they've been doing non-stop since 11-8-2016? Time to take off the gloves, unleash AG Barr (I think he's already that) and wait for IG Horowitz' report and Huber's findings. Then he needs to go Michael Corleone and start smoking all these clowns. Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Lynch, Brennan, Clapper etc......maybe even the Capo di Capo Obama. Can't wait for Ginsberg to retire and see Amy Coney-Barret on the bench.
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Old 21 April 2019, 21:49
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Agree with your post WGH. They'll put Ginsburg's brain in a jar and wire it to something that she can dissent with her brain waves till Trump is out of office in 2024 and Nikki Haley is President before the left gives up on her and pulls the plug.
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Old 21 April 2019, 22:36
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^Haley may be VP sooner than we think.
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Gaining popularity. My prediction is the Bernie camp will sooon be abandoning Bernie and throwing their support to Buttigieg.
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Old 22 April 2019, 11:35
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Gaining popularity. My prediction is the Bernie camp will sooon be abandoning Bernie and throwing their support to Buttigieg.
He just has not been destroyed by Bernie's camp yet. Biden was the more immediate threat to Bernie in both popularity and fundraising. The other crazies are all bit part players thus far hovering around 1 percent. I hope and pray they decide to impeach the President this week. Then the candidates will really be put on the spot. I believe that the dems pursuing impeachment will destroy them.
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Old 22 April 2019, 11:41
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... I believe that the dems pursuing impeachment will destroy them.
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Old 22 April 2019, 12:00
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Gaining popularity. My prediction is the Bernie camp will sooon be abandoning Bernie and throwing their support to Buttigieg.
What's the difference between Bernie and Buttgig?

One is just a younger version of the other.
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Old 22 April 2019, 13:14
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The most dangerous threat to Trump is a candidate that says "this is what I like about Trump and this is what I don't like about Trump," and then tells the crazy alt-left "you're not directing my campaign - I want the middle 15-20% that don't like Trump but like you even less."
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Old 22 April 2019, 13:30
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The most dangerous threat to Trump is a candidate that says "this is what I like about Trump and this is what I don't like about Trump," and then tells the crazy alt-left "you're not directing my campaign - I want the middle 15-20% that don't like Trump but like you even less."
Which is why the DNC and dem candidates all lost (or will lose if he actually pulls the trigger on running) their collective shit over Howard Schultz mounting a third-party candidacy for President.

Not because he might split the vote and ensure another term for President Trump, but because he wouldn't be beholden to them if he did win.

Which is an interesting scenario; a liberal/democrat with political leanings more in line with democrats of 20-30 years ago and a successful business background runs a largely self-funded third party campaign. I'd say at that point the race would no longer be the Republican's and President Trump vs the dems and whatever social fascist they come up with, but President Trump vs the third party candidate. And a much more dangerous situation for him.
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Old 22 April 2019, 13:54
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IMO, Trump is Trump’s greatest threat. Much like in the other thread, “Shut the Fu@@ up,” then he will run away with the election.
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What's the difference between Bernie and Buttgig?

One is just a younger version of the other.
And one is a Veteran and one is Gay. Take Bernie and make him younger, even more hip, a "veteran", and Gay. As I said in my original post the ideal liberal progressive candidate.
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Old 22 April 2019, 17:49
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My wife votes Democrat and supported Bernie in 16. The other day she says to me have you seen Mayor Pete? I really like that guy. Well see if he has a strong enough personality to hold his own in the debates. I liked Rand Paul, but DJT crushed him in the debates.
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Old 22 April 2019, 17:53
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And one is a Veteran and one is Gay. Take Bernie and make him younger, even more hip, a "veteran", and Gay.
From what I'm seeing on the internet, the Bernie bros think he's just a Neo-Liberal faker.
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Old 22 April 2019, 19:57
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Gaining popularity. My prediction is the Bernie camp will sooon be abandoning Bernie and throwing their support to Buttigieg.
I agree. Buttigieg is the one to watch. If Bernie drops out, he has a chance.
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