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Old 24 January 2018, 16:13
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Old 24 January 2018, 17:33
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Yeah, I dont think these will sell well at all. Then again, maybe they werent supposed to. Maybe they just wanted to show how much of a joke the NFA is.
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Old 25 January 2018, 22:00
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Straight cut lands and groves with 4-5 moa at 50yrds. Real narrow range of practical use.

Interesting but....ok.
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Old 26 January 2018, 10:47
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Straight cut lands and groves with 4-5 moa at 50yrds. Real narrow range of practical use.

Interesting but....ok.
Millenials will buy it.
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Old 26 January 2018, 11:26
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So....essentially the accuracy of a 1770's smoothbore musket for $2K+. Great business plan that....LOL
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Old 26 January 2018, 11:43
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So....essentially the accuracy of a 1770's smoothbore musket for $2K+. Great business plan that....LOL
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Old 26 January 2018, 12:18
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If I'm following the "logic" correctly, no that wouldn't work. It has to be manufactured with a binary from the very beginning. It can never exist as anything else. Otherwise that would be considered "reclassifying an existing rifle".
I think you're forgetting that the lower is the 'weapon'; therefore it follows that if the lower is 'binary', and therefore 'legal', then the barrel length would be a moot point, just as if you changed the upper from 7.5" to 10" on a AR pistol...
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Old 26 January 2018, 12:55
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I think you're forgetting that the lower is the 'weapon'; therefore it follows that if the lower is 'binary', and therefore 'legal', then the barrel length would be a moot point, just as if you changed the upper from 7.5" to 10" on a AR pistol...
This is correct given what we now know about the thing. I didn't know at the time it was something with no rifling. I was guessing the thing was getting around the NFA by saying their trigger didn't fit the definition of what a 'rifle' was -- and was therefore only a 'firearm'. Turns out I was incorrect.
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Old 26 January 2018, 21:28
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So....essentially the accuracy of a 1770's smoothbore musket for $2K+. Great business plan that....LOL
But like George Carlin said, "If you nail two pieces of wood together in some way that's never been done, some schmuck will buy it".
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OK, SHOT Show report:

It's rifling is not rifling. Therefore not a rifle. The lands and groove are straight, not spiraled. They claim 4" at 100m with 55grn. They are also looking at fin stabilized (had them there at the show) projectiles/loading Franklin Armory ammo. Think sub miniature mortar round looking thing.

Personally if I feel the need for something like that I'd be having the "pistol" with arm brace.

Only thing I can see gained from it is interstate travel without having to send paperwork to ATF 30 days in advance if you took an SBR with you.
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Pass, looked at it during SHOT.
Not suppressor friendly, so it's a gimmick for suckers (IMHO).
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We should drop a few pallets of them into Chicago just for T&E purposes. Pookie and Ray Ray would love to have some phat new gats.
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We should drop a few pallets of them into Chicago just for T&E purposes. Pookie and Ray Ray would love to have some phat new gats.
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Old 29 January 2018, 08:54
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We should drop a few pallets of them into Chicago just for T&E purposes. Pookie and Ray Ray would love to have some phat new gats.
Pookie and Ray-Ray already use the "God wills it/wave gun in the general direction" aiming technique, all this would do is result in more bullets being unleashed randomly in some sort of "bad luck ghetto casino." There's 675+ kills per year with the primary ghetto armament coming from such notable firms as Lorcin, Davis, Hi-point and Bersa. S/F....Ken M
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Pookie and Ray-Ray already use the "God wills it/wave gun in the general direction" aiming technique, all this would do is result in more bullets being unleashed randomly...

That particular set of TTP's might skew the results of a Chicago based test as well - random rifle movement might actually provide results that come in at less than 4-MOA.

I'm thinking for the pure collector value, I may look deeper into one of those 1770 era smoothbore muskets that Sharky mentioned.
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