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Old 5 November 2017, 17:53
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Saudi Crown Prince consolidates his power by arresting 11 princes

Reports are still a little thin, but apparently there have been arrests of numerous high ranking princes and military officers on "corruption charges".

I placed the last words in quotes because Saudi Arabia, if nothing else, is a country that has been built on corruption since its inception. Prince Bandar I recall once said that Saudis didn't invent corruption, but they perfected it. I've always considered Saudi Arabia to be more of a family business than a nation state, I guess this is the way they hand out pink slips to its employees.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/w...bin-talal.html

Regardless of the stated reason for all the arrests, it's pretty clear that the crown prince is anticipating his ascension to the throne and doesn't want any messy interference from other princes or the military when the time comes.
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And there's this too. Probably just a coincidence.....

http://nypost.com/2017/11/05/saudi-p...icopter-crash/
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Old 5 November 2017, 19:39
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And there's this too. Probably just a coincidence.....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6175710/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt

Did you cut and paste the wrong link?
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Old 5 November 2017, 19:42
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Did you cut and paste the wrong link?
I did....lol...

Corrected.
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I did....lol...

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Originally reported as an attempted coup;
http://halturnerradioshow.com/index....dered-arrested
By Royal Decree, the King of Saudi Arabia has relieved from power the Minister of State, the Minister for Economy and Planning, the Chief of the Saudi National Guard as well as the Commander of the Naval Forces!

Among those arrested is Al-Waleed bin Talal, the richest man in Saudi Arabia . . . who has a major stake in Citigroup. Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal's major investments include Twitter & Lyft, and he is a majority owner of Four Seasons hotels along w/ Bill Gates
Rumour has it that they wanted to modernise the Kingdom, good luck.
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Old 5 November 2017, 22:01
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Originally reported as an attempted coup;
http://halturnerradioshow.com/index....dered-arrested
By Royal Decree, the King of Saudi Arabia has relieved from power the Minister of State, the Minister for Economy and Planning, the Chief of the Saudi National Guard as well as the Commander of the Naval Forces!

Among those arrested is Al-Waleed bin Talal, the richest man in Saudi Arabia . . . who has a major stake in Citigroup. Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal's major investments include Twitter & Lyft, and he is a majority owner of Four Seasons hotels along w/ Bill Gates
Rumour has it that they wanted to modernise the Kingdom, good luck.
Ouch.
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Thomas Wictor over on Twitter has some interesting threads on KSA:

twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/907338972296241152
How has the world changed since September 11, 2001?

twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/927052304498298885
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia.

twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/926960414218268673
Saudi Arabia and religious intolerance.
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You broke my heart Fredo bin Dirka, never take sides against the family! Now who wants to go fishing? Yallah!
Now that shits funny!!!
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Well... because world affairs, n shit...

Russia and Iran sign a $30B energy deal, China and Russia look to dump the petrol dollar, Iran attacks SA through a proxy, and now SA is cleaning house.

My question is whats the play on the world stage?
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Thomas Wictor over on Twitter has some interesting threads on KSA:

twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/907338972296241152
How has the world changed since September 11, 2001?

twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/927052304498298885
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia.

twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/926960414218268673
Saudi Arabia and religious intolerance.
Thomas Wictor also published a thread attributing precision air strikes in Syria to a covert force of super Arab pilots and commandos. https://twitter.com/thomaswictor/sta...75024396861441
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My question is whats the play on the world stage?
Our play would be to capitalize on the current level of uncertainty and initiate new/renegotiate old strategic basing agreements.
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Some heads are gonna roll.
More than a figure of speech over there!
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Chop Chop Square is where the commoners go. Mostly foreign guest workers.
Although if you started seeing some royal heads hit the square after noon prayers in the near future, you'll know there is some serious upheaval in the kingdom.

The rumor mill in the media is working overtime right now, with reports that the arrests were the result of an attempted coup attempt, which wouldn't be totally unheard of. There have probably been several coup plots over the years that have never been revealed in the media.

That said, the crown prince is a divisive figure and not universally supported in his bid to take over for his father. It's a radical shift in the structure of succession in Saudi Arabia that has generally seen one son of ibn Saud after another take over the top spot. But those sons are running out and at some point a new generation of leadership has to take the reins.

That next generation is nothing like their predecessors, for the most part they are western educated and not as sympathetic to the balance of power that has always existed between the royal family and the religious authority. I expect there to be more turmoil in Saudi in the months and years ahead, especially after the current king dies. As it is, he is barely cognizant of his surroundings and has advanced dementia.
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Although if you started seeing some royal heads hit the square after noon prayers in the near future, you'll know there is some serious upheaval in the kingdom.

The rumor mill in the media is working overtime right now, with reports that the arrests were the result of an attempted coup attempt, which wouldn't be totally unheard of. There have probably been several coup plots over the years that have never been revealed in the media.

That said, the crown prince is a divisive figure and not universally supported in his bid to take over for his father. It's a radical shift in the structure of succession in Saudi Arabia that has generally seen one son of ibn Saud after another take over the top spot. But those sons are running out and at some point a new generation of leadership has to take the reins.

That next generation is nothing like their predecessors, for the most part they are western educated and not as sympathetic to the balance of power that has always existed between the royal family and the religious authority. I expect there to be more turmoil in Saudi in the months and years ahead, especially after the current king dies. As it is, he is barely cognizant of his surroundings and has advanced dementia.
Makes sense. SANG is under the Crown Prince. I thought things would get funky after Abdullah died.

Changing of the guard. But, I still see it as 100 years away, even it if starts now. Lots of tribal influences that do not want anything to change, ever.
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Old 7 November 2017, 18:42
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Personally the SA Iran stoush worries me more than NK.
No independant verification of SA's remaining oil reserves has been (allowed) to be done since 1976.
They will probably fine (confiscate) the wealth of the arrested in order to boost their own coffers.
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Reuters is reporting Lebanon Prime Minister flew to SA and phoned in his resignation. Also per SA Lebanon has declared war on SA???

Is SA preempting the impending Iranian caliphate or is this just ME camel trading??
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