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Old 28 January 2012, 10:53
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Thumbs up STOL Competition (2011)

Having spent some time in AK for training over the years, I am constantly amazed at the skills of these Bush pilots.....

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=133255
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Old 28 January 2012, 11:05
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Having spent some time in AK for training over the years, I am constantly amazed at the skills of these Bush pilots.....

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=133255
Impressive skills there!
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Old 28 January 2012, 12:55
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Watching that film, the first thing that came to my mind was that practice for that competition could prove to be very expensive.
I am impressed.
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Old 29 September 2018, 14:18
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Check out this STOL aircraft, built using the frame of a Polish built Wilga 2000.

It's called a DRACO and it looks like the baddest bush plane out there, light and with a lot of horsepower. It's amazing how quickly this thing jumps into the air, looks like less than 100 feet at sea level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqhI4MeCn1c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Z2VNTFp-Q
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Old 29 September 2018, 15:16
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Alaska remoteness

Should note that it certainly helps to have a nice headwind...

https://youtu.be/6XYFcw1c-Oo
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Old 27 December 2018, 22:10
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For any interested. They will have another no doubt.

http://www.stoldrag.com/events/hsf2018
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Old 27 December 2018, 22:13
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Anyone here have their CFI?
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Old 27 December 2018, 22:24
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If anyone makes it up this way, the Valdez fly in is a great way to spend a day. As B 2/75 said, if there is any kind of headwind the landings look fake, like a CGI effect. I believe one year we were there and the total take off and landing distance was something like 35 feet.

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Old 29 December 2018, 17:12
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If anyone makes it up this way, the Valdez fly in is a great way to spend a day. As B 2/75 said, if there is any kind of headwind the landings look fake, like a CGI effect. I believe one year we were there and the total take off and landing distance was something like 35 feet.



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I was in Bitterroot valley for a week last year; got hosed out some mountainous terrain training into Moose Creek (1U1), by the wildfires that were running rampant. You are really north brother. I tried to MAC into Elmendorf in 2005 but their strip was in a reduced capacity due to construction; canít hang out at Travis for ever, so that was as close as I got to Alaska. Spending time in AK is on my bucket list.
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Old 27 December 2018, 23:51
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whats up with that website?

Lots of their articles come from Iranian "science"

like this and and this one and this. but it gets really interesting in this one where it says
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The ruling Jewish elite has struggled to attempt to make global warming into a popular issue, but it has obviously remained something that only an elite minority believes in, cares about or even thinks about. So when they cause a massive inconvenience to normal people’s lives in the name of this hoax, and the people revolt, the only actual solution is to lecture the people.
or this one where it says
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The dark horse of the New World Order is not communism, socialism or fascism, it is technocracy, according to economist and financial analyst Patrick Wood.

(Actually it's Zionism but MSM not allowed to say that)

He joined guest host Jimmy Church (email) to
very interesting group of articles .. all the more interesting when you look at where they come from and the editorial content in them.

I know this is a thread about awesome bush planes, and the video is awesome, but what the hell is up with the rest of it?

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Old 29 December 2018, 18:26
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Lucked out with 2 tours in Alaska. First at Ft Richardson for 3 years, during which I earned private, commercial, instrument and seaplane ratings. The flying club was the largest military flying club in the world. Got time in a lot of different aircraft. Built time flying people in and out of remote strips and lakes, on hunting trips. Second tour was at Ft Greely for 3 years. Bought a Citabria, and flew it everywhere - almost 1000 hours. Saw several STOL competitions, but never competed. Good times.
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Old 30 December 2018, 11:27
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Lucked out with 2 tours in Alaska. First at Ft Richardson for 3 years, during which I earned private, commercial, instrument and seaplane ratings. The flying club was the largest military flying club in the world. Got time in a lot of different aircraft. Built time flying people in and out of remote strips and lakes, on hunting trips. Second tour was at Ft Greely for 3 years. Bought a Citabria, and flew it everywhere - almost 1000 hours. Saw several STOL competitions, but never competed. Good times.
Sweet! Are you still current?
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Old 30 December 2018, 17:46
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Unfortunately, no. Kept the plane a couple of years in Maine, then when I retired I sold it, intending to buy another. My post retirement career left me little time to fly. Fully retired now, and sometimes contemplate taking a shot at the flight physical, and if I can pass, get back into flying. We'll see.
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For those needing a bush flying fix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd43mO99CPU

Not specifically featuring STOL, but more the places it can take you.

Good visuals; I enjoyed it.
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Old 11 September 2019, 06:15
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Thanks for linking to that video. One of the best I have seen. I needed that.
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Old 11 September 2019, 16:53
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What is the maximum headwind for that type of event? It seems that
under steady strong winds, some planes could descend vertically.
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Ok stupid question: why planes and not rotary wings for these remote environments? I would hate to land a plane somewhere and then have a bitch of a time trying to takeoff again. With a chopper you’re in and out. There must be valid reasons for plane vs chopper, but they are not obvious to me.
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... There must be valid reasons for plane vs chopper, but they are not obvious to me.
Payload-to-power plant ratio = costs...

...or, in another way of looking at it, $ per lb. from Point A to Point B.

Unless you have to hover in and out - the FW will generally be the more cost effective solution. Not always, but most of the time.
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Old 12 September 2019, 16:39
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Helicopters are much more expensive both upfront (purchase) and over the long term (maintenance). Also, based on distances in Alaska, not efficient so your operating costs per pound are higher.
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Payload-to-power plant ratio = costs...

...or, in another way of looking at it, $ per lb. from Point A to Point B.

Unless you have to hover in and out - the FW will generally be the more cost effective solution. Not always, but most of the time.
Thank you, gents. Now it makes sense.
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Old 16 September 2019, 23:04
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Ok stupid question: why planes and not rotary wings for these remote environments? I would hate to land a plane somewhere and then have a bitch of a time trying to takeoff again. With a chopper youíre in and out. There must be valid reasons for plane vs chopper, but they are not obvious to me.
One big factor is, it's illegal to have helicopters touch anything to do with hunting up here. If that changed I think you would see the aircraft ownership demographic change dramatically just about overnight. You can use them for fishing most places, but not everywhere.
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