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Old 7 April 2006, 14:56
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all about supporting the gun porn... err firearms industry
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Old 7 April 2006, 15:14
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all about supporting the gun porn... err firearms industry
I am also all for people increasing their personal armories. Personally I do not have the money to throw at a firearm that will not give me bang for the buck.

I am an engineer so I am all about return on investment.
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Old 7 April 2006, 15:20
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I got to dance with one yesterday at the BORTAC show. If your intention is simply to vomit overwhelmingly copious volumes of fire, then this is your huckleberry.

In semi-auto, it is very smooth. No recoil whatsoever.

It is easier to control on full auto than an M4, but the trigger takes some getting used to. It takes a stronger/longer pull than does an M-4.

The single round ballistic damage may not be as great, but if you hit the target with a burst, it will shred whatever it hits.

And, like Gack correctly pointed out, the press all over this thing if used by LE. To those of us in the industry, dead is dead. But to the civilian world, and especially to a media that is predisposed against LE, there is a difference between good dead and bad dead.

All in all, it was an impressive little piece. But I fear it's applications are limited in scope.
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Old 7 April 2006, 15:53
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What advantage would all that change buy you over an AR or some other such firearm?

FN PS90 5.7x28 Cal Carbine
Bloody Hell! That link you posted H20. The pic in the top right page for the site is me. That pic has been showing up all over the damn place!
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Old 7 April 2006, 16:07
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It shreds armor when you use the ammo designed for it. There are three types of round for it: Military/LE use only (SS-190/192), and Civilian (SS-197). The civilian round is a 40 grain Hornady V-Max with a ballistic tip... basically a jacketed hollow point. It has as much AP capacity as any other JHP: None/marginal.

I thought about buying one of these to replace my lever gun when I go camping. Instead, I bought an M-Forgery. However, markets being what they are, I found somehthing that will allow me to shoot 5.7 from my AR:

http://www.rhinelandarms.com/57/model_r57.htm

$550, and I can bring a gun to a gunfight in whatever caliber I want :D
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Checked one of these out yesterday and a local gun store. I don't know why, but I want one! Shoulders very nice, like the ergonomics. And it is a very unique design, not just aesthetically but mechanically as well. Definitely has the "cool" factor, and have to admit would like to have for the "fun" factor at the range. First choice to take into harm's way? Don't know about that.

But, as the above post mention, I do question the stopping power compared to a .45 ACP from a handgun, to a 5.56mm from a carbine. Multiple shots required to equal a few shots from the later?

I know some LOVE this round. My local gunsmith I use, Army gunsmith veteran, swears by it and carries the FNH pistol in the same caliber as his daily CCW.

So to update this thread, anyone have experience with either the PS90 or the 5.7 x 28 caliber?
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Old 22 April 2017, 13:43
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Oh yes

I have one. Harvested 2 hogs w/it. It works. In my mind, what will slap down a feral hog, will do same to a human behaving badly.

I have not SBR'd it, as I want the extra fps.

Granted, I got a "pretty good" deal, ref cost.

I would take it over a semi-auto MP5/7 or any of the SIG, etc 9mm carbines coming out.

Several pluses: accuracy, complete reliability, discreet, 50rds.

I have the brass & am going to start reloading 5.7. Which is a little tricky.

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Old 22 April 2017, 14:10
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...riot?

Not in my neighborhood

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Old 22 April 2017, 14:42
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Zombie Apocalypse/ "Walking Dead", Riots, "Daylights End"...

Bring it?...

Hold my beer.

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Old 22 April 2017, 15:25
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Wardog,

If your in Charlotte, you should give "Moe" a call @ the FN Pro-shop. The shop is located right next to the FN America building, here in Columbia, SC.

I don't know if he has any in stock. Odds are, he does not; as, they sell QUICK. But, I believe he would be able to give you the best price.

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Wardog,

If your in Charlotte, you should give "Moe" a call @ the FN Pro-shop. The shop is located right next to the FN America building, here in Columbia, SC.

I don't know if he has any in stock. Odds are, he does not; as, they sell QUICK. But, I believe he would be able to give you the best price.

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Wardog's post was from 2006, so he probably has found one by now if he really wanted one.

Thanks for your info on the PS90 though.
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Oh yes

I have one. Harvested 2 hogs w/it. It works. In my mind, what will slap down a feral hog, will do same to a human behaving badly.

I have the brass & am going to start reloading 5.7. Which is a little tricky.

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Hmm, what'd bullet you use on the hogs? Head shots?

I imagine it'd reload kinda like 22 Hornet, except the brass seems beefier. Handloading Hornet sucks because the brass is paper thin. S/F....Ken M
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Checked one of these out yesterday and a local gun store. I don't know why, but I want one! Shoulders very nice, like the ergonomics. And it is a very unique design, not just aesthetically but mechanically as well. Definitely has the "cool" factor, and have to admit would like to have for the "fun" factor at the range. First choice to take into harm's way? Don't know about that.

But, as the above post mention, I do question the stopping power compared to a .45 ACP from a handgun, to a 5.56mm from a carbine. Multiple shots required to equal a few shots from the later?

I know some LOVE this round. My local gunsmith I use, Army gunsmith veteran, swears by it and carries the FNH pistol in the same caliber as his daily CCW.

So to update this thread, anyone have experience with either the PS90 or the 5.7 x 28 caliber?
It doesn't matter as long as you hit them in the pelvic girdle. You can get the 5.7 in a hollow point if it makes you feel better.

Given my experience with the 5.7 in a handgun, the P90 in that caliber is going to be a soft ride. It's not quite like shooting a .22, but the next time I challenge AZ5326 on the dueling tree, I'm going to cheat and use the 5.7 because you can get sights back on target really fast. But you have a maximum effective range of 200m with the rifle, so it's definitely a close quarter weapon (as intended).

And don't forget about that goofy magazine it uses. You won't be scrounging those in the zombie apocalypse. Getting ammo was a royal PITA for a while, but now that Federal is making it you don't have to horde your 5.7 stash like it's gold. I still don't shoot mine very much.
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Old 23 April 2017, 02:25
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Hmm, what'd bullet you use on the hogs? Head shots?

I imagine it'd reload kinda like 22 Hornet, except the brass seems beefier. Handloading Hornet sucks because the brass is paper thin. S/F....Ken M
It was a limited vis shot (ie green light) @ approx. 15yds. I used SS197 (ie the 40gr ballistic tip).

Shot the 1st one, in the neck. Dropped, no kicking or squealing. Light off. Waited 3 minutes & heard a second. Light on & he was looking square @ me. I put one in his forehead & drop. Light off.

Ref reloading. Powder that meters well & trimming the brass. I would really like to load a Barnes 45gr TSX. Kind of the route the HK MP7 went. But, it's a work n progress.
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Old 28 April 2017, 14:33
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I SBR'ed mine (through TROS) and run it with a can. It's becoming one of my favorite semis

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Old 29 April 2017, 15:55
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Finally got to shoot one yesterday. Put one 50 round mag down range. Very nice. Minimal recoil, and easy to keep right on target.

Would really like to have one. But, if had the funds would probably buy another AUG or a Tavor.

From an engineering point of view though, I am very impressed. Very reliable. Found the support hand grip though could be a little better, but was still capable.
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I SBR'ed mine (through TROS) and run it with a can. It's becoming one of my favorite semis

What type of optic/red dot are you running?

Is that brass catcher one made and sold for the PS90, or one you jerry rigged/constructed yourself?
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