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Old 18 May 2015, 10:27
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The news and the statements by the police makes it sound like the the dead and wounded were all shot by other bikers. I bet some of these guys were shot by the police?
Word through the grapevine is yes, some were shot by LE but no idea how many or if they were wounded or killed. Good.
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Old 18 May 2015, 10:46
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Haha, as soon as I saw that Deputy the first thing I thought of was "I am Sheriff Bufert T Justice of Texas, you sumbitch!"

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Old 18 May 2015, 10:50
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Old 18 May 2015, 11:02
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Fuck 'em, they're no better than the Crips and Bloods. Thugs and criminals, the lot of them.

Thankfully, no innocents were killed or injured.
Unlike the Crips and such they can hit what they shoot at sometimes.

To answer the SS tattoos and such a lot of the clubs use the runes.I have seen hispanic and black bikers with SS runes.

Glad only thugs were killed.
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Old 18 May 2015, 11:18
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Unlike the Crips and such they can hit what they shoot at sometimes.

To answer the SS tattoos and such a lot of the clubs use the runes.I have seen hispanic and black bikers with SS runes.

Glad only thugs were killed.
I've seen black dudes with SS runes. They were graduates of the USMC Scout Sniper Course.
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Old 18 May 2015, 12:20
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A good start.

Supposedly 189 will be charged. I feel bad for the booking officer.
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Old 18 May 2015, 12:27
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Well, that didn't take long.

Twin Peaks' corporate office has revoked the Waco location's franchise:

Twin Peaks revokes Waco restaurant's franchise

By Aaron Smith
POSTED: 08:17 AM CDT May 18, 2015 UPDATED: 11:15 AM CDT May 18, 2015

The Twin Peaks company has revoked the franchise agreement for its restaurant in Waco, Texas, the scene of a biker shootout that killed nine people this weekend.

"We will not tolerate the actions of this relatively new franchisee and are revoking their franchise immediately," said the Dallas-based company.

The company laid the blame on the managers of the Waco franchise who "chose to ignore the warnings and advice from both the police and our company, and did not uphold the high security standards we have in place to ensure everyone is safe at our restaurants."...

http://www.kspr.com/life/money/twin-...52342_33079582
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Old 18 May 2015, 12:32
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Word I'm getting is that it was OMC thug-on-thug until LEOs engaged, and then they turned on the LEOs, resulting in an unspecified number of MC members being dropped by the LEOs.

Given the numbers involved (over 200 detained, over 165 charged, 9 dead, 18 transported, over 100 firearms recovered, 5 OMCs involved), that was an outstanding job by Waco PD, TX DPS, and other responding agencies. The fact that no bystanders were injured is staggering considering the number of rounds fired.
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Old 18 May 2015, 12:34
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Knowing Waco, the restaurant's talent was likely comprised of townies, rather than hot little Baylor undergrads. Grossest experience I ever had at a titty bar, Too Minnies, had just such a demographic - had to throw away a pair of khaki shorts, and not because of what I left on them, but rather because of what the "dancer" left on them.

Thus, I will safely assume in revoking the franchise license nothing of value was lost.

And frankly, with the dead all being gang members, I'd say the gene pool got a boost.
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Old 18 May 2015, 12:36
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One hundred weapons. Holy fuck.

Amazing that no officers were hit. Since I doubt these guys had the sense to collectively avoid shooting LE--we may safely conclude that they shoot about as well as any other group of gangbangers.
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Old 18 May 2015, 12:47
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Is there a white supremacist angle to any of the involved gangs? One of the news wire photographs showed a biker with 'SS' tattoos.
As a 1%er in SC, I will answer that question for you. Not usually depending on the club. However, there are racists among us as there are in any part of society. The Bolts are really just to piss people off and for shock value. Here in SC there are no Hispanic or Black members, but there are many chapters of the "Big 4" with Hispanic members. There are no blacks in those clubs, but they do have their own clubs.

As for us being like the crips or the bloods, there is no comparison. 3 of the top 1% clubs were started by veterans returning home from wars including mine. It takes years to earn your patch and not all of us are thugs and criminals. We have doctors, lawyers, DOD employees, and a vast majority of us are vets. (No Cops) We have people from all walks of life that choose to be part of the brotherhood. 1% does not mean criminal. We support our neighborhoods, and many many causes. All you have to do is ask around and you will see the people we help.

My chapter is based in a very small community, without the support of the people we would have a hard time. We do clean up the trash and the people are safer with us here. What you see are the bad sides of club life, and that is exactly what .gov and law enforcement want you to see. No matter what club you are from, we all prospect and come up the same. We ALL believe in the same thing too. Freedom, Family, and Brotherhood--- yes a 1%er will die protecting it. Well over a hundred thousand in the US alone and that shit scares big brother. We choose to live our own way and not how some bureaucrat or lying politician tells us too. That is why most of what you see are lies. As a matter of fact with all the guys coming home, clubs are seeing a huge influx of prospects and hangarounds.

Are there criminals --- absolutely, will we fight to protect our beliefs --- absolutely, but that does not make us thugs. I have NEVER seen any patched member go out of their way to hurt someone who didn't have it coming. That shit in Texas is disgusting and they should have settled it out of the public. However, Texas is a very different animal when it comes to the clubs. You have a lot of patches who want the same turf.

Just remember, not all of us are long haired, bearded, stanky, drugging and drinking pigs like you see on tv. We have careers, education, families. We love our country, our military, and our Constitution. We just march by a different drummer.

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Old 18 May 2015, 13:10
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Heard on the news lots of threats being made towards the police by the gangs.
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Old 18 May 2015, 13:13
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Your post.
Wow. So much wrong with this post. Like a klucker saying he's in it for the social aspect.
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Old 18 May 2015, 13:19
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Heard on the news lots of threats being made towards the police by the gangs.
Word through LE is that there has been a, "green light" (for lack of a better term) put out for MC's to target cops. Probably because they're all misunderstood beacons of society.
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Old 18 May 2015, 13:20
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Is it a coincidence that this biker 'love fest' happened at the same time as the Jade Helm exercises?
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Old 18 May 2015, 13:21
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I've seen three names tossed around: Bandidos, Scimitars, and Cossacks. Who else was involved? Were any of the clubs allied with any of the others, and supporting that alliance?
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Old 18 May 2015, 13:22
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...No matter what club you are from, we all prospect and come up the same. We ALL believe in the same thing too...
Surely you jest.
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Old 18 May 2015, 13:27
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I see that Twin Peaks is a national chain, even have one in my neck of the woods.

Is there something about this particular restaurant that brought all these gangs together at it? It appears from statements made by a Waco police Sgt that the cops knew there was trouble brewing and are blaming the violence on the restaurant, which is now in the process of having its franchise revoked by the parent company.
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Word through LE is that there has been a, "green light" (for lack of a better term) put out for MC's to target cops. Probably because they're all misunderstood beacons of society.
Are you using the term 'green light' as used in gang parlance?

that is to say are the shot-callers for the OMGs putting out a hit on LEOs in the Waco area?
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Old 18 May 2015, 13:31
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I see nothing -- not in the slightest (other than the above post) to indicate the most remote connection between any mil exercises and biker violence.

Seriously -- damn....
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