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Old 23 April 2018, 09:51
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I don't know what kind of horn you have on your bike, but upgrading it to a sound bomb would be ideal. This sucker definately tells others when they're fucking around near you. Make sure to use it when you catch anyone texting while driving.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...mpact-air-horn

As for other vehicles, the first rule is to avoid them all-together if you can and take back roads. If you can't/don't want to, the key is to be seen. Add some fog lights to the front of your bike and run them full-time. Upgrading your accessory lights to LEDs is advisable as well.

Other than that, maintain situational awareness and you'll be fine.

As for more bike porn: Did some riding up on Skyline drive out in Shenandoah National Park.
Good points. So good that HD put most of these on the 2018 models. I have all LED lights and two "Passing Lights" off to each side of the main headlight. I need to get out, maybe tonight and see the effects of these passing lights. The horn is loud and moderately obnoxious, but I was thinking about an upgrade yesterday, before I read your post.

Love the back roads, rode about 8 miles out of the way to hit back roads just to buy a gallon of premium gas.

Great view and a beautiful bike.
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Old 23 April 2018, 13:57
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TFG, here's my divorce gift I gave myself. I've already got the laundry list of "customizing" started. Waiting for the aftermarket to catch up so I can get some appropriate full exhaust on it.

2018 Fat Bob 114
Very cool. I looked long and hard at the Fat Bob and almost bought a 2015 with sand denim paint. Very cool.
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Old 23 April 2018, 14:19
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Been seriously considering having him build me a nice Pre-69 custom Indian.
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Old 23 April 2018, 14:35
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...also, as a personal rule, I try to avoid driving at night when possible. Other than the other jackasses on the road, visibility on road obstructions (pot holes, animals) just plain sucks.
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Old 23 April 2018, 22:57
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My buddy Rob owns http://virginiavintagecycle.business.site/


Been seriously considering having him build me a nice Pre-69 custom Indian.
The new Indians, since Polaris bought them out are bad ass.
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Old 23 April 2018, 23:12
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Thanks fellas. post those bikes up here and your lessons learned. What do you guys do to help to be "Seen" by the text and drive community?
Sweet Bike, TFG ! Enjoy and be safe
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Old 24 April 2018, 07:43
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What do you guys do to help to be "Seen" by the text and drive community?
Given your location, your riding's likely a lot like ours; plenty of open backroad w/o significant objective hazards, minus the random critter (dog, cat, moose, whatever 'Show Me' has...).
But for town or traffic, consciously pick your line within your lane. One of the three lines is usually superior to the others in any given situation re: viz and/or options for avoidance. I enjoy the fluid dynamic; getting tired sucks you into a fixed line and tunnel vision, at least it does me.

Being in the middle of a line of cars puts you at risk for oncoming lefts - hug the yellow, get big, and watch every oncoming face. Being at the end of a line also, but an additional hazard is oncoming drivers waiting to pass; they'll gun it after the last CAR they see and totally miss you - either get left and get big, or elect to hang back and be ready to move right. Even without seeing a blinker, there are giveaways that someone's gonna pull this.

Night-time, I'm with CV in trying to avoid it; it's got an attractive frisson but too many unknowns. Don't outrun your headlight.

Sun low and at your back, all bets are off; keep your head on a goddam swivel.

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Old 24 April 2018, 07:50
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Why is that even a consideration :)? You know you're going to!
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Old 25 April 2018, 15:12
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Ran some errands and of course took the scenic route. I took a road that has three sets of 90 degree S turns. Going out not so bad, but coming home was a bit sketchy hitting the S turns with oncoming traffic. I gotta remember my TTP of slowing before the turn, enter the turn high to the outside and then counter steer while looking through the turn and the accelerate on the way out. Caveman logic says to slow down, but the bike handles so much better through the turn with a little acceleration.
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Old 25 April 2018, 17:50
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Don't trust the loud pipes to keep the bastards from running you off the road, always look for an out when getting close.
This. People these days are incredibly dense/self absorbed when driving. When I was running open headers on my '79 Bonneville 750cc cafe, I was hit once in an intersection and had people try to come into my lane on the highway. I haven't seen/heard many other bikes louder than mine before I finally broke down and put mufflers on to save my ears a bit and it didn't make a whole lot of difference to being seen.

Your safest bet is to make sure that you see everyone within distance to affect you and have a plan to avoid them deliberately trying to kill you.
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Ran some errands and of course took the scenic route. I took a road that has three sets of 90 degree S turns. Going out not so bad, but coming home was a bit sketchy hitting the S turns with oncoming traffic. I gotta remember my TTP of slowing before the turn, enter the turn high to the outside and then counter steer while looking through the turn and the accelerate on the way out. Caveman logic says to slow down, but the bike handles so much better through the turn with a little acceleration.
The dark part of your lower windshield would be a challenge to me, especially at night or when moving through streets with potholes.
I know HD makes a sweet aftermarket one for the RK which is fully clear and has a directional wind vent built into it. Not sure about the Heritage.
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Old 26 April 2018, 08:24
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The dark part of your lower windshield would be a challenge to me, especially at night or when moving through streets with potholes.
I know HD makes a sweet aftermarket one for the RK which is fully clear and has a directional wind vent built into it. Not sure about the Heritage.
As I sit on it, the shaded part covers just out past the front wheel. Since you are taller than I am, it may be even closer. To be honest, I haven't really noticed an impact, mainly because I have been riding on pre-selected roads that are historically well maintained.

I typically take a stroll through the little town I store it in, I will take a look and see if it impacts my vision at all.
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Old 26 April 2018, 13:55
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The dark part of your lower windshield would be a challenge to me, especially at night or when moving through streets with potholes.
I thought the same thing until I sat on one. Didn't care for it.

It hardly affects field of vision, though. It's deceiving.
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Ditto, getting my leather gear together..
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Boots (motorcycle gear in general) are a personal preference as to what you like. I've ridden in full AlpineStars track boots, AlpineStars "chukka" height riding boots. Now since I've switched to the Harley side, I picked up a pair of Engineer boots. The price on the good American made ones will make some people shy away, but these are built & designed to last a lifetime with good care. Basically any leather boot with good traction sole, over the ankle leather support and what you like will work. I personally buy the best gear I can find, afford, and what looks good to me. I'm kinda a "gear junkie" I've got a cabinet with 8 helmets, 4 pair of boots, multiple leather gloves and about 4 jackets both leather & textile.

Good boot that will last as long as you do.

https://standardandstrange.com/produ...-s-s-exclusive


This dude, while kinda a "rocker vs mod" type has good boot reviews.

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Old 27 April 2018, 06:47
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I ride about 15000 miles a year, so get to see also sorts of crazy on the road. Others have mentioned most of these, but here is my list that has saved my ass more than once over the years.

1a for those who experienced it, just pretend you are back on Route Irish in late 2003 and ride accordingly.
1b For those who didn't, just expect that everyone and everything on the road is actively trying to kill you (Not just that other drivers don't see you, but that they actually want to kill you).

2a from point 1b, always be looking for an escape route.
2b keep space around you, speed up, slow down, change lanes, whatever you need to make sure you have a safe following distance in front and behind.

3 drive within your limits and the road conditions, i.e. if you don't know how tight that corner is, ride it slower; if you cant see around the corner to know if there is loose gravel, ride it slower. Find your limits off the road e.g. at track days and special maneuvers courses.

4 be visible, learn to ride on the best part of the road for visibility for other vehicles. Loud pipes can help, but in my experience they are of most use in splitting lanes (I live in a country where lane splitting is both legal and pretty much compulsory).

MC Rider on youtube has a lot of good vids on riding techniques.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB2N8vKDA4w

As for gear:
For boots I use Wesco Harness boots
https://www.wescoboots.com/builder/MensCustomBoot.aspx?id=Harness
or Lowa Combat boots depending on what Im doing that day.
https://www.lowaboots.com/mens/task-force-tactical/combat-boot-gtx%C2%AE-pt?color=Black

For Jeans, I use a full kevlar lined jean from Bering as they have a good style that is comfortable to wear when not riding. (not sure if they are sold in the US).
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Old 27 April 2018, 08:10
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I ride about 15000 miles a year, so get to see also sorts of crazy on the road. Others have mentioned most of these, but here is my list that has saved my ass more than once over the years.

1a for those who experienced it, just pretend you are back on Route Irish in late 2003 and ride accordingly.
1b For those who didn't, just expect that everyone and everything on the road is actively trying to kill you (Not just that other drivers don't see you, but that they actually want to kill you).

2a from point 1b, always be looking for an escape route.
2b keep space around you, speed up, slow down, change lanes, whatever you need to make sure you have a safe following distance in front and behind.

3 drive within your limits and the road conditions, i.e. if you don't know how tight that corner is, ride it slower; if you cant see around the corner to know if there is loose gravel, ride it slower. Find your limits off the road e.g. at track days and special maneuvers courses.

4 be visible, learn to ride on the best part of the road for visibility for other vehicles. Loud pipes can help, but in my experience they are of most use in splitting lanes (I live in a country where lane splitting is both legal and pretty much compulsory).

MC Rider on youtube has a lot of good vids on riding techniques.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB2N8vKDA4w

As for gear:
For boots I use Wesco Harness boots
https://www.wescoboots.com/builder/M...spx?id=Harness
or Lowa Combat boots depending on what Im doing that day.
https://www.lowaboots.com/mens/task-...pt?color=Black

For Jeans, I use a full kevlar lined jean from Bering as they have a good style that is comfortable to wear when not riding. (not sure if they are sold in the US).
This seems to be the doctrine found in most of the posts here. When I go out to ride, I try and practice all of these tactics. Wednesday I was out and was a bit scatter brained, kept day dreaming (Bright sunny cool day). So I cut the ride to the store short.

Practice, Practice, Practice. I need to sign up for my safety class. ETA, June 8,9 and 10.
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Old 27 April 2018, 08:50
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I ride about 15000 miles a year, so get to see also sorts of crazy on the road. Others have mentioned most of these, but here is my list that has saved my ass more than once over the years.

1a for those who experienced it, just pretend you are back on Route Irish in late 2003 and ride accordingly.
1b For those who didn't, just expect that everyone and everything on the road is actively trying to kill you (Not just that other drivers don't see you, but that they actually want to kill you).

. . . S N I P . . .

LOL... Irish was the most popular (read: most widely known / frequently traversed) but not necessarily the worst. Just north of BIAP was the highway running from Baghdad to Fallujah which ran past the "Milk Factory." They had a market that straddled the roadway, just a few hundred yards from the police station. Really shitty place. It was so tight you kept your pistol in hand as you traversed it; packs of people and vendor's stalls right up against your vehicle ~ too close for quick rifle use.

Anyway, the point is that Combat Driving is a pretty damn good analogy to safe Motorcycling. While it isn't necessarily polite driving, it is looking out for your own ass driving.
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