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Old 7 May 2018, 22:50
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Oliver North. Really?

So Oliver North got elected as President of the NRA. Was wondering what peoples thoughts may be?

Personally, I think there's enough bullshit being bandied about in the public square, this guy is just going to help make the debate skew even more out of whack. Its not like he doesn't have a giant lighting rod stick out of the top of his head or anything...

I'm trying to figure out just what exactly the NRA is thinking with this pick?
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Old 7 May 2018, 23:00
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The NRA president is a figurehead position. So, there's that. Plus, the NRA jumped the shark a while back.
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Old 7 May 2018, 23:25
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Karl T Frederick, president of the NRA supported the NFA of 1934.

Franklin Orth, president of the NRA supported the GCA of 1968 (mostly)

Joaquin Jackson, board member of the NRA supported "assault" weapons bans into the 2000's.


And you're worried about Ollie?
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Old 7 May 2018, 23:52
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And you're worried about Ollie?
Yeah, pretty much. Does that make me a bad person?
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Old 8 May 2018, 00:04
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No minds will be changed by whatever the noise is surrounding Oliver North as president of the NRA. Those who hate will continue to hate. Sycophants will remain sycophants.


Neither the NRA, nor media noise define the Constitution.
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They wanted a celeb like when they had Charlton Heston.
Hey Ollie, good luck with the Red Sea.
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Not a wise move IMO.
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Me too, North is also a convicted felon IIRC?
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Old 8 May 2018, 06:46
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The NRA president is a figurehead whose primary responsibility is to galvanize fund raising. I expect North will do this quite effectively. No one who supports statist, unconstitutional, federal gun control is going to change their mind, no matter who the NRA president is. "Compromise" or "negotiation" with socialists does nothing except move the start point for the next round of federal overreach- I just hope we can push back before the pushback must be paid for in blood.
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Me too, North is also a convicted felon IIRC?
His convictions were reversed in 1990, and all charges were dropped in 1991. He has clean record.
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Like it was previously stated, the POTNRA is a figurehead. Oliver North has an image of 'resilience' in the public court and eye, regardless of the media coverage surrounding him over the years. You can bet the adversaries of the NRA will do their best to smear him in the meantime. North has been through all this before and has survived. My concern for North would be with the NRA itself.

The Constitution's fate or future resides in the Supreme Court.
The POTUS nominates from the lower courts.
Lower court Judges and Sheriff's are where local concerns and efforts should be focused.
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He is a guy that was intimately familiar with socialism/communism taking over a country by taking the weaponry of the constituency...... Jus sayin.
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Karl T Frederick, president of the NRA supported the NFA of 1934.

Franklin Orth, president of the NRA supported the GCA of 1968 (mostly)

Joaquin Jackson, board member of the NRA supported "assault" weapons bans into the 2000's.


And you're worried about Ollie?
This.
The NRA has been mostly about hunting, and hunter's rights. It's really hard to support an org that has their dismal track record in supporting more gun control, including "common sense" and "sporting purpose" crap.
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Old 8 May 2018, 08:14
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I think for what the President of the NRA actually does, he'll be an OK pick.
-Name recognition? check
-A believer in the 2A? Check
-A person who will bring in money, be the man of the hour at fundraisers, and have a certain cachet? check


Most millienials won't even have a clue of who he is, for the most part. Let him be the figurehead to schmooze donors, etc. Let people like Chris Cox and others do the hard work in the trenches.
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Me too, North is also a convicted felon IIRC?

Not sure I would hold that against him. He kept his mouth shut and fell on his sword, and a couple dozen more swords above him in an effort to protect Reagan and others. Although he takes the blame for a lot of the Iran Contra fiasco, anyone who thinks a LTC was doing all of that without a whole lot of supervision from above is on crack. We have very few Officers today who would be willing to do what North did.
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Not sure I would hold that against him. He kept his mouth shut and fell on his sword, and a couple dozen more swords above him in an effort to protect Reagan and others. Although he takes the blame for a lot of the Iran Contra fiasco, anyone who thinks a LTC was doing all of that without a whole lot of supervision from above is on crack. We have very few Officers today who would be willing to do what North did.
I don't hold that against him. I figured the lame stream would bring it up.
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He is a guy that was intimately familiar with socialism/communism taking over a country by taking the weaponry of the constituency...... Jus sayin.
Good point and so true, hadn't thought of that angle yet.
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He is a guy that was intimately familiar with socialism/communism taking over a country by taking the weaponry of the constituency...... Jus sayin.
Great point, can't wait to watch the snowflakes melt. Hopefully he will do some good.
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